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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Impact of Covid-19 on Driving Instructors: Unite the Union (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Would Mr. Brophy have it as one of the recommendations to make a new cohort on the essential side so people could do their driving hours with the approved driving instructors? What is the technical term for those hours?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Impact of Covid-19 on Driving Instructors: Unite the Union (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Thank you. We move to non-members. I call Deputy Paul Kehoe.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Impact of Covid-19 on Driving Instructors: Unite the Union (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thank all the witnesses for attending today's engagement with the committee. We will be following up with the approved driving instructors stakeholders' forum and Mr. Fred Reilly and will ask them to come before the committee, which they have indicated they would be interested in doing, or to give us a detailed submission. This would be in terms of our deliberations on putting forward a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: The purpose of the second part of our meeting is to discuss and examine the procedure and appointment process for the chair of the Irish Aviation Authority. On behalf of the committee, I welcome from the Department of Transport, Mr. Fintan Towey, assistant secretary, and Mr. Ronan Gallagher, principal officer. Witnesses are reminded of the long-standing parliamentary practice to the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: My thanks to Mr. Towey. Please be careful with your delivery as it is coming in and out. Maybe it is the microphone or whatever, but please be careful. We can hear you but it is inclined to be mixed at times. We will now go to members. Senator Timmy Dooley has five minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Deputy O'Rourke has four or five minutes. I am conscious of the other members. We have to be out of here by 1.30 p.m.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am conscious of time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: I ask Mr. Towey to conclude.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does Deputy O'Rourke wish to come back in briefly?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: We, as a committee, will do a follow-up body of work around aviation as well. I call Deputy Carey.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: I have a few questions for Mr. Towey. Today we are discussing the process of appointment. Did Mr. McGrail, the previous chairman of the IAA, resign or was he asked to resign? I ask Mr. Towey to give me a "Yes" or "No" answer. Did he resign of his own accord or was he encouraged to resign?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: I did not see it in the public domain, and it was not in the press statement on the appointment of the interim chairman. If my memory serves me right, we got correspondence indicating that the appointment was for one year. Is Mr. Towey saying there is no deadline on the appointment? I ask Mr. Towey to give me a "Yes" or "No" answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Typically, how long does the public appointments process take to appoint a new chair?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. McGrail resigned in early November. It has now been virtually five months since then. Why did the Department not consider a process of public appointments to appoint a new chairman designate for the IAA?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: How many board meetings have taken place since Ms Hynes's appointment as chair of the board of the IAA?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: I have two questions. Who ultimately made the decision to appoint an interim chair rather than go through the Public Appointments Service?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Why would the Department not now start the public appointments process to appoint a formal chair designate of the IAA board in parallel with having an interim chair, based on the reasons Mr. Towey has put forward?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Towey will appreciate we are not questioning at all the qualifications of the interim chair; it is the process that we are questioning.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Senator Dooley can come back in very briefly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Appointment Process for Chair of Irish Aviation Authority: Engagement with Department of Transport (18 Mar 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: We need to conclude.

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