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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: What are the governance issues?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Has the CFO been on continuous leave since then?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Okay. I want to move on to Conor Ryan's "RTÉ Investigates" report. What checks does the Department do before it provides a licence? We only had this one equine abattoir. What background checks does the Department do given that this industry is, obviously, more than the horse racing industry. What checks does the Department do in relation to people who would run a facility like that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: What of their own background? Does the Department check their background?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Is Mr. Sheahan aware there was a conviction in 2012? There was a conviction in Gort District Court in 2012 for cruelty to two horses.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Would this have raised a flag in relation to this particular-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Knowing that this was the case, what was the Department's role? We have been told that this side of this industry is a very financially important industry and a lot of people - I would say most people in the industry - are acutely aware of animal welfare and will be horrified by what they saw. Given that there had been a previous conviction for animal welfare what measures were put in place...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: If the Chairman allows extra time-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Did Mr. Sheahan watch this programme?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Is Mr. Sheahan saying that the only thing that matters-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: -----within this slaughter plant-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: It was made at the plant where-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: -----people had made complaints. They were not inside the slaughterhouse. They were looking at what was happening outside. In fact there were two horses that were damaged and died as a consequence of being damaged on fencing.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: The reality is that the Department is the regulator-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: There is a responsibility here on the regulator.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Between the microchipping, the double microchipping, the animal cruelty, and the food safety issues that report made it looked like there was a lot of gangsters involved in this industry and the Department has-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: The Department has a-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Yes there will be an investigation.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Horse Racing Ireland
Financial Statements 2022: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board
(20 Jun 2024)

Catherine Murphy: But there is an impression and the Department is the regulator.

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