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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: It is 18 completed and 43 in Donegal. Therefore, it is likely that they have got the bulk of that cash.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I wish to make a brief comment in the minutes remaining to me. Mr. Kelly has given us an update on the local authority houses. My understanding was there were to have been some pilot or Pathfinder projects. Have any of those projects commenced any work on remediating social housing stock?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Has anything been done in Donegal to remediate local authority social housing stock or AHB stock? Have any homes been remediated?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: We are years into this scheme. The working group report came out in 2017. I am now being told that only 40, 50 or 60 homes have received their full grant. Only 192 of the ones that were stuck in the old scheme have progressed and only 195 of the new applications have had an offer. There have only been 436 applications. I will come back to the matter on a subsequent round but that says to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Of those, how many have been deemed valid?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I wish to go back to figures, although I presume we will continue the conversation about the review of the industry standard. I have been looking back at the Estimates. In 2021, 2022 and 2023, €146 million was allocated to pyrite and mica remediation. Obviously a portion of that is to the Leinster pyrite scheme. Would Ms Stapleton know, even notionally, how much of that €146...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: In real terms, because the scheme only opened in 2021, expenditure would not really have occurred in 2021, so that €100 million is over 2022 and 2023. Am I correct in saying the total expenditure to date on the scheme is only €25 million?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: All on defective blocks.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: That means approximately €60 million was unspent over that period.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Less than half of the money that could have been spent on home remediation was spent. I accept that, in the early years of the scheme, there will not be much spend. Remind the committee the date the defective blocks scheme first opened for applicants.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: The scheme opened in June 2020. There would not be any expenditure from June 2020 even into the end of 2021. Can Mr. Rafferty understand how not just us in committee but affected homeowners or the local authorities who have defective stock would feel that €60 million that should have been spent fixing homes has not been spent?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: But there has been a demand. I am looking at the CCMA’s report. The total number of online registrations to the current scheme is 2,661. I presume that is people just logging online, checking the scheme out and seeing what is available. Regarding the total number of applications received, there is a discrepancy between the CCMA’s figures and a parliamentary question I got...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Let me rephrase the question. It was not the local authorities or the Housing Agency that decided the design of the scheme. Ultimately, that was a policy question for Government in terms of the legislation that was provided. Given there is such a discrepancy between applications, applications deemed valid and drawdowns, and given such a significant amount money is not being spent, is that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Regarding this year’s allocation, €65 million is allocated again for both schemes. One assumes the Leinster pyrite scheme will take less than €20 million of that, perhaps between €10 million and-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: That leaves a remainder of €50 million for defective block.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Do the witnesses think that will be spent?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: That is if any of that money actually gets drawn down. Is there an estimate of what would be for the defective block of the remaining €50 million?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (14 May 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: On the basis of what Ms Stapleton said, how much do the witnesses think will be spent this year?

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