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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: -----asking questions, as Vice Chair of this committee, in relation to public moneys that are being used, that this question is answered. I am referring to just the creation of the unit. My questions have nothing to do with operational issues or the Charleton tribunal, which I will not be straying into at all.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: The creation of the unit has led to the spending of taxpayers' money. Taxpayers are paying for the unit, Chair.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: We now know that the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform gave sanction in May.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: In May.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: On the creation of the unit..

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: The answer that I am hearing is that the head of HR-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: -----has raised serious issues with the Commissioner. Was that on more than one occasion or just one occasion?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: I disagree, Chair. I do not see why this committee is being prevented by commentary by the acting Garda Commissioner from asking questions about the expenditure of public moneys on the creation of a unit. That is it. My question has nothing to do with the operation of the tribunal, its findings or anything like that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: For the record, through the Chair-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: I am deeply alarmed that this committee is not allowed, given that we have given notice, to ask questions about the creation of a unit, which does not stray into anything to do with the tribunal. I have asked well over 20 parliamentary questions on this matter but I have not received answers. The Secretary General is aware of this because I have had to go back to him seeking answers to my...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: I take note that these questions as to how this unit was created using taxpayers' money are not being answered in any forum.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: I think the Chairman and the Deputy are asking the same question.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: The issue is very simple here-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: In fairness, I started this process. Mr. Barrett did in fact take the Chairman's guidance when he said a moment ago that his issues concerned financial reports.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: And resources.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: We started at ten past.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: We have three topics to deal with.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Is this not the main business?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is fine.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Approximately, yes.

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