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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Written sanction was given on 5 May. How were people hired before written sanction?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Did the Secretary General give oral sanction for these people to be hired?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: What documentation was that sanction based on?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Was anything sent to Mr. Waters in writing by An Garda Síochána?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Sorry, I could not hear what was said.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: The Commissioner rang Mr. Waters, he gave oral sanction on 21 May. On 27 May-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Sorry, on 27 February-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: -----she wrote to Mr. Waters.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Approval was only given by the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform on 5 May. In the interim a whole pile of people were hired before the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform gave sanction. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Is it normal for Mr. Waters to give oral sanction like that before getting approval?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: On how many occasions?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Give me an example of a precedent by which this would have been done.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Can Mr. Waters think of a precedent when he did this for something similar?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Barrett, I presume as the head of HR, and given the issues that the Secretary General has outlined here and given the timelines that the Acting Commissioner has outlined, I am sure he was fully consulted on all of this given the HR implications and is fully happy with all of this process.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: On what dates were the contracts drawn up?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: I appreciate that Mr. Barrett would not have thought he would be asked about this matter.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is fair enough. Did the contracts and transfers happen in or around February?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Was it 21 February, which is the same day the phone call happened?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Nov 2017)

Alan Kelly: Next question. Is Mr. Barrett 100% happy with the manner in which this unit was created, and the manner in which it functions?

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