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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will ask the HSE to give us an update, including figures on the original number of staff, the number of staff who transferred and the number who did not transfer. We will at least ask the HSE to provide the current position on the numbers. That is the periodic report. We will follow up on a few matters. We are noting many matters and there are others on which we are seeking additional...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Much of the response refers to purchases of surplus emissions allowances from other European Union member states. Deputy Catherine Murphy is correct in reference to the years of overachieving. Using the word "overachieving" is making out that the recession, and the level of development we did not have at that time, were achievements. That is set out in the document. We will ask for an...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will come back to that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will discuss the acceptance of the specific recommendation regarding the Kildare and Wicklow ETB investigation. The committee also recommended that the outcome be established and agreed between the Department of Education and Skills and Education and Training Boards Ireland, ETBI. It was also recommended that all future public funding to ETBI be clearly aligned to clear and measurable...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will write back to the Department in respect of recommendation 21 and ask that it give us the number of medical assessors it had, how many have left, how many have been recruited and the net increase. It is fine to say a further three full-time equivalent medical assessors are expected to be recruited by the end of July. That may only be replacing three who have left. We need the full...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: They have given us the breakdown of suspected fraud versus error.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will write and ask for the breakdown. We will ask the Department to explain whether it will separate these items in all communications from now on.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will write back to them on that because they will be appearing before us in a routine manner shortly. We will write back to them on the basis sought by the Deputy and they can send that on to us in the meantime. It is an issue that comes up quite often.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Overpayments are due to a variety of factors, full stop, and it is not just fraud. We are agreed. We will write and ask for the position on that. The committee recommends closer co-operation between the Revenue Commissioners and the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection on the issue of outstanding debt relating to redundancy in employers' insolvency schemes. It is no...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: I sat through all the meetings on that issue. The mission of NAMA was to recover what it paid. The fact it is a surplus rather than a deficit is good. NAMA's projected surplus has been increasing over the years. That is not a Government target. It is just NAMA announcing what it expects. The legislation only expected it to break even.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: The surplus is increasing. It is clear it has not yet realised that surplus because there is still money and debt to be collected. However, based on how it is going and its knowledge of what is to be collected, it is projected it will have a surplus of at least €3.5 billion. This is very important. When we had the Department of Finance in here some months ago as part of this...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: As I understand it, a surplus can be used to pay off debt. The limit is not on the amount of the surplus but on the amount by which we are allowed to increase expenditure. Under the fiscal rules we could not use the €3.5 billion for house construction. If we did that, we would be in breach of the fiscal rules. The surplus could be spread over a couple of years. We could not spend...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: It was recommended to the Minister for Finance, who has replied that he accepts the recommendation. In light of the Minister's agreement to a Dáil debate on the use of the NAMA surplus, the secretariat will draft a motion in that regard for next week's meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: This committee has to pass the motion requesting the debate next week, following which it will be sent to the Business Committee. We will deal with that motion next week. The Department of Finance has already agreed to the debate. It will probably take place on a Thursday evening, which is when committee reports are usually dealt with. It is useful to have a debate on the issue in the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: There are two chapters in the Comptroller and Auditor General's report. We have already written to Revenue asking that it appear before the committee to deal with those two chapters on smuggling of tobacco and high wealth individuals but I think it would be possible to deal with the Vote as well. Discussion of the chapter on high wealth individuals will stray into other areas. It would be...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are all in agreement that we need the information broken down in that way. If the response is that that cannot be done, that speaks for itself. The information should be available. Correspondence 1686 B is alsofrom Mr. Maurice Coughlan, in regard to correspondence provided to the committee during our meeting on 25 October 2018 dealing with the 2017 expenditure breakdown and overview of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes, but we have not yet received a response.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We have followed up on the matter but we have not yet received a response. Is it agreed to note and publish this correspondence? Agreed. Correspondence 1688 B is from Mr. Neil McDermott, system funding, Higher Education Authority, dated 26 October 2018 providing clarifying information in regard to the Waterford IT review which was discussed at our meeting on 18 October 2018. Is it agreed...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will deal with that correspondence in private session in a few minutes. I thank the Deputy. Is that the correspondence received from Cork?

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