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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: In the interests of clarity, would you normally advise the Minister on matters like that? I am not asking about that situation specifically but in general.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. I thank Mr. Doyle. Deputy Devlin is next.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: We will break and return in ten minutes sharp.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: The next speaker is Deputy Dillon.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: We are over time.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy has raised an important point because traditionally, over the decades funding came only from what used to be called the Department of the Environment and Local Government. I am not arguing against what happens now but funding comes from a number of Departments. One of our recommendations, when we come to putting a report together, might be that the Secretary General be notified...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: The first councillors see of the budget is when it is landed in front of them a few days before a meeting and it is galloped through. Each group on the council should be able to meet the manager and the director of finance and tell them their priorities and for them to analyse what way the streams are or set out the priorities for the council.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: They need to be aware that in the corporate structure the people elected are the legal council. It is not the county manager. That is all I am saying. People need to be aware of that balance. The councillors have limited enough powers but they need to be aware of them. I now move to housing. Mr. Kelly deals with it. Will he outline the target for local authority builds this year?...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: That is by local authorities.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: No. I want to talk about local authorities.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: The delivery mechanism by local authorities-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is that 5,000 built by local authorities this year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: And turnkeys.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: How many builds? Is it 2,000 or 3,000? I am trying to get a figure from Mr. Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: What is the target?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: I know.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: Does Mr. Kelly, as principal officer dealing with this, know how many of that 9,000 will be local authority builds? Does he have some idea now that we are six months into the year, how many builds will have been completed by local authorities? The local authorities send plans back and forward to the Department to get approval and go through the Part 8 process locally.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: That also includes approved housing body builds, does it not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Brian Stanley: So 5,000 for local authorities.

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