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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: That is okay. We can add it on to the list. I thank Deputy Hourigan for that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. McCarthy for that. Could we agree to note the listings of financial statements? Agreed. As usual, the listing of the accounts of the financial statements will be published as part of our minutes. I will move on to correspondence. As previously agreed, items that are not flagged for discussion at this meeting will continue to be dealt with in accordance with the proposed...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: I note that a number of recommendations we have made have been accepted. Clearly, lessons have to be learned from this. We cannot have another open-ended situation like this where the State and the taxpayer are left exposed. We will note and publish that. We move on to item No. 1342 B, which is from Mr. David Gunning, chief executive officer of the National Children's Hospital. It came...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: I want to make sure the Deputy has full information in regard to that record. During the engagement on 16 June, during Deputy Carthy's contribution, the chief officer stated that claims continue to come in during the moratorium. It would appear from the correspondence before us that while the contractor continues to make claims, even though they cannot be progressed through dispute...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: There are two suggestions here. One is that we may need to bring the members of the board in before us in the not too distant future. My opinion is that given the nature of what we have witnessed in the past two years and the responses we are getting from the board, we should certainly keep that proposal under active consideration. We need to include it in the work programme with a...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: We will ask the secretariat to request more specific information from them.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. McCarthy. The next correspondence is 1341B from Mr. Mark Griffin, Secretary General of the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications, dated 4 July 2022, providing information requested by the committee regarding inflation in respect of the national home retrofit scheme. It is proposed to note the correspondence and publish it to the website. Is that agreed?...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: We can get that information from the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage. There are some census figures as well, although that information might not be included in the latest data. Many people with stoves are looking to hold on to them because of the price of electricity and gas. However, I take the Deputy's point and we will seek that information from the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: There is also a question over the number of homes with single-glazed windows.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: I will also request a calculation for the number of homes that still have single glazing.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: Local authorities are probably not too bad in this regard but there is a large number of private houses that still have single-glazed windows. Unfortunately, they are generally the homes whose inhabitants are on the lowest household income. People are caught in a catch-22 situation. We will request that information. The next correspondence is 1345B from Mr. Robert Watt, Secretary...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: Was that done before the agreement was signed?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: What if the agreement had not been signed? Would that money have gone down the tubes?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: I do not see reference to the pharmacy in the correspondence.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: The commercially sensitive part of it is that if the pharmacy is built, first of all, it is a very expensive pharmacy at €50 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: Surely, they can tell us how much that costs. If the work is done, where is the commercial sensitivity? It is the same with the car park. If that was a separate budget for those enabling works in the car park, and there is roughly €50 million for the two of those, I cannot see any reason they cannot provide us with the cost of both of those projects if they were separate or even a...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: I think it is a pharmacy and car park and ancillary works.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: There are a number of parts here, the first of which being that we will note and publish the correspondence in front of us. A number of issues have been raised, which, in no particular order, are the business case for the maternity hospital and the report published on the hospital that was built at Elm Park that is still completely vacant. There is also the breakdown of the figures...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. I will add to that the status of the tender at the moment and the clauses in it. I thank everybody for that very comprehensive discussion. The next item of correspondence is 1350B, from Mr. Brendan Gleeson, Secretary General of the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine. It is dated 7 July. It provides information requested by this committee regarding the digitisation of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: We will ask those two questions. We will note and publish the item of correspondence. No. 1353 B is from Mr. David Moloney, Secretary General of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, dated 11 July, providing information requested by the committee arising from a meeting with representatives of the Department on 19 May 2022. Information across a range of areas is included. Also...

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