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Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: How many people who have come through JobPath are employed via the JobPath route today?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: They are employed today.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: I seek clarification. Do those 22,000 refer to people who secured employment and stayed there for more than 12 months or people who did both of those things and are still in employment?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: We must, therefore, assume that a number of those are no longer in employment.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: It would be useful to have a sense. I agree that 12 months is a good parameter, but it would be useful to see of people are still in employment after two years.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: This is, therefore, comparing people who got this support with people who got no support essentially.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: Is there any analysis of the 22,000 people who have secured employment? Are all those full-time equivalent posts?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: What would their average hourly rate of payment be?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: What are their average weekly earnings?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: Mr. McKeon is not giving me this data, I have to say.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: I can understand it might not be there. The Department has extended the JobPath for another year. On the basis of the figures Mr. McKeon has given me, assuming that the bulk of those 22,000 are still in employment, it works out a cost of €11,000 per job. Is there any possibility that another route would ensure we could create a greater number of jobs for less than €11,000...

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: I am only giving Mr. McKeon the data in this instance.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: I am telling him that the Department spent €244 million

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: Excuse me, let me finish.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: Chairman-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: Whatever about Mr. McKeon's understanding of JobPath, the Government propaganda was certainly that this scheme was a job-creation scheme. It was to take people from social welfare payments to job activation. Based on the figures we have been given, €244 million has been spent on the scheme and 22,000 people have been in employment for more than 12 months. That works out at...

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 – Employment Affairs and Social Protection
Chapter 4 – Control over Welfare Payments
(12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: I wish to touch on the issue of the one-parent family payment. Mr. McKeon is aware of recent media reports regarding the experiences of some claimants of that payment. Does the Department have any plans to review the operation of that scheme? I come from a family that relied on that payment for several years. I know of cases, some of which involve very close friends of mine, where...

Written Answers — Department of Trade, Enterprise and Employment: Covid-19 Pandemic (12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: 99. To ask the Minister for Trade, Enterprise and Employment if his Department or an agency operating under his Department has encountered expenditure in respect of hand sanitisation products or other PPE products that were subsequently subject to a recall by the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine in 2020; if so, the expenditure in respect of such products; if the expenditures...

Written Answers — Department of Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Covid-19 Pandemic (12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: 111. To ask the Minister for Communications, Climate Action and Environment if his Department or an agency operating under his Department has encountered expenditure in respect of hand sanitisation products or other PPE products that were subsequently subject to a recall by the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine in 2020; if so, the expenditure in respect of such products; if the...

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Improvement Schemes (12 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: 133. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport the estimated timeline for completion of upgrade works on the N2-A5 Dublin-to-Derry road; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [35969/20]

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