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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Permanent TSB and AIB (9 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: In terms of the previous homeowner moving on and getting on with his or her life is the legacy debt left hanging over him or her?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Permanent TSB and AIB (9 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: It is still there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Permanent TSB and AIB (9 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: I do not hold the view that everything must be similar in every bank, but we are looking at consistency across the board and it seems to be the case, even in privately owned banks, that this debt is written off as part of a structured resolution process.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Permanent TSB and AIB (9 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: The last time the banks came before the committee there was a very strong difference of opinion on stating that writing a legal letter to distressed customers was a resolution process. It might be the commencement of a resolution process to get matters under way, and a legacy debt which is not categorically dealt with or concluded after an assisted voluntary sale or repossession is not a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Permanent TSB and AIB (9 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: I do not seek a blanket comment. A property could be in positive or negative equity upon its disposal and this will determine whether a sum is outstanding. In situations where a substantive sum of legacy debt exists and a person has surrendered his or her home because of unaffordability, which is the basis on which the banks deal with cases, has Permanent TSB concluded this debt with people...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Permanent TSB and AIB (9 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: Going back to Mr. O'Sullivan's earlier comment, somebody going into an assisted voluntary sale would be more encouraged. I dealt with a case which the Permanent TSB handled quite well. Following a separation a young woman and a child were living in a one-bedroom apartment. This apartment had been bought for €250,000 and is probably worth approximately €80,000 now. This would...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Permanent TSB and AIB (9 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: However if Permanent TSB approaches this process with vagueness at the end of it that will not encourage people to engage in a voluntary sale and the bank will be tied up in court forever.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Permanent TSB and AIB (9 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: I do not expect the witnesses to have these figures to hand this morning, but will they provide an explanation at a later date, if possible, regarding the 2,302 people involved in legal proceedings at present with regard to how many are still not engaging with the bank even though a legal process is under way; how may are responding to the bank through the legal process; and how many were...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Permanent TSB and AIB (9 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: Before we commence business, I remind members, witnesses and those in the Public Gallery that all mobile phones should be switched off to avoid interference with the broadcasting of the meeting. I welcome the representatives of Permanent TSB to this morning's meeting. We are joined by Mr. Jeremy Masding, group chief executive officer; Mr. Stephen Groarke, head of financial reporting and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Permanent TSB and AIB (9 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: Yes. Mr. Masding can continue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Permanent TSB and AIB (9 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: Thank you, Mr. Masding. I propose to take the first group of questions in 15 minute slots and then move on ten minute slots, and I would hope to conclude by 1 p.m. or even earlier than that. I thank Mr. Masding for coming before the committee and for the information he provided to us. I will begin by delving into some of that. It appears that Permanent TSB has probably the highest...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Permanent TSB and AIB (9 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: On the mortgage to rent solution, which was another one of the resolution processes set out in the Keane report, I note there has not been completion of any of those to date. What is the current state of play in that respect?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Ulster Bank (8 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: Is Mr. Brown saying categorically that this type of thing is not happening at Ulster Bank?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Ulster Bank (8 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: I must bring the discussion to a conclusion. I thank the witnesses for assisting the committee today. This meeting is one of a series of engagements we are having in the coming days with representatives of the banks. I appreciate the frankness and openness with which the delegates engaged with us and their commitment to provide any information that was not to hand. I look forward to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Ulster Bank (8 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: The Senator must be very brief.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Ulster Bank (8 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: The Senator is finished. I want to conclude. We are unravelling a difficulty that has been created over the years but there is new mortgage lending and despite the difficulties of the present period, members of the public will continue to be home buyers. That is going to remain a fact and that is going to be the option of choice for most people who can afford it. I wish to speak to the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Ulster Bank (8 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: What sort of ratios is the bank applying to those loans, in terms of income?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Ulster Bank (8 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: What is the LTV limit? Is it 92%, 95%?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Ulster Bank (8 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: The schedule-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Mortgage Arrears Resolution Process: (Resumed) Ulster Bank (8 Apr 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: What is the schedule of those mortgages? Are they typically for 20 or 25 years or are we seeing a continuation of the 35 year mortgages?

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