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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: The cost of the tribunal is €25 million. How much of that relates to compensation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Sorry, I missed it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Per annum.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: What is the total of the payouts then?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: So 15% is for the process and handling the tribunal.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Breslin might pass that on to us. Are claimants' costs are included?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Breslin can send us a briefing note with the information he has. Somebody mentioned the HSE has some new machine for liver tests. Could Professor McCormick explain that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: In how many locations is that machine?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: In the hospitals and the community?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is that just for hepatitis C?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Could the machines be used for other liver tests?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is fine. I noted on the charts supplied that the numbers of males presenting is now much higher than females. How is that ratio working out?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: I am looking at it now. Perhaps Ms Tait could state the figures for the record. The ratio seems to be nearly 3:1.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: I am looking at a chart but perhaps Ms Tait could send the figures to us in numerical form. It also looks as if the number of females presenting is declining, while the number of males has been reasonably static over the past five years.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: On page six of the report there is some information on the different groups that presented. It states that other reported risk factors include tattooing or body piercing and there were nine people who contracted hepatitis C in that way.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: It appears that nine people got it through tattooing or body piercing.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: There was a debate in the Oireachtas on this recently. In his opening statement, Mr. Breslin said that in the years since these infections were discovered, a wide range of actions were taken, based on the recommendations of the Finlay and Lindsay tribunals, to ensure the safety of the blood supply. That encapsulates the problem. A problem arises and it is examined to make sure it does not...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: How many reports has HIQA done? The Minister has commissioned a report into a hospital. HIQA does not inspect hospitals on a daily basis.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: If it did, it would probably close them all.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 15: Hepatitis C Treatment in Ireland
Management of Medical Negligence
(22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: It can inspect on a thematic basis.

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