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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: I am only asking the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: I am sure there is a record of why they resigned because by law they had to explain it. Is it true that the chairperson of the board is also the chairperson of the audit committee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Who is the chairperson of the audit committee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Has the chairperson of the board ever been the chairperson of the audit committee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is because it would not be normal, as the Benefacts representatives can appreciate.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: In that sense it would not have been appropriate. It is not the norm in any way, shape or form. Benefacts operates under a voluntary code of governance. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Given what the Minister said earlier, Benefacts will operate under a different code of governance because the majority of the company's funding will probably come from the taxpayer. It will have to fall into the norm in that regard. The old way of funding was 50:50. In my scenario we are looking back at different accounts. How does Ms Quinn perceive the funding streams? What were they in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: He said the funding from the Department was going to be increased.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: How often do Benefacts staff meet officials from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform? Who are the officials they deal with?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Is Benefacts auditing done in-house or is a company hired to do it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: With regard to income, does the company generate external sales? It amasses a huge volume of data. Does the website mention 20,000 records?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: I used to be an IT manager and I specialised in databases. Is the figure of 20,000 accurate?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Is 20,000 accurate? The website states------

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: We will not fall out over a few hundred organisations. Has Benefacts data on all of them?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Does Benefacts sell any of that data? If so, to whom?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: So Benefacts does not sell data.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: So Benefacts sells data.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is all I wanted to know.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: I presume Benefacts has a data protection officer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Is that person employed on a full-time basis?