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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: I presume Benefacts has a data protection officer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Is that person employed on a full-time basis?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is fair enough. To save time, will Ms Quinn supply a copy of the company's data protection policy to the committee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: The data protection officer position is vacant but somebody is doing the job.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Given its role, surely the company cannot operate without a data protection officer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Ms Quinn is busy. She said the company has a small number of staff to run a sizeable database with a significant volume of data. I presume much of the work has to be outsourced and, therefore, there are many contracts with external agencies and I presume all these are tendered for.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Are they tendered under public procurement guidelines?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Can Ms Quinn supply a list of every contract valued in excess of €10,000 that has been entered into since the company's incorporation with the tender details?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: That would be helpful. I presume there are no conflicts of interest relating to anybody working for the organisation or a board member or to those who supply services to the organisations.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: My questions are not designed to catch Ms Quinn out. I respect that this organisation has an unusual set up, which is not a negative. It is also a relatively young organisation and, sometimes, there is a fear that such an organisation will fall between two stools. I used to be the chairman of a committee and the reason I ask these specific questions is to make sure there is public...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: The organisation has a small staff. Does it contract people to do the data analysis?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Does the organisation hire in staff to work on IT, financial analysis and so on?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: I presume that is done on site, that everything is encrypted and that all the data they work with is protected. I presume they are covered by the data protection policy and that the organisation owns the IT equipment with which they work. I presume all of this in view of the volume of data the organisation has access to, even though I acknowledge the way in which Ms Quinn says it is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: I did not say that it is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: I have a last question and I thank the Chairman for his indulgence. I will short circuit some of these. Will the witnesses supply to the committee the Benefacts disclosure policy, its data protection policy - which I have already asked for - and its fraud policies, as currently constituted that is before today? Does Benefacts have a human resources manager, and if so who is this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: I will ask the question again. Does Benefacts have a HR manager?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Who manages it? Ms Quinn is the chief executive so who manages HR?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Is that person qualified to manage HR?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: What is the name of the system that Benefacts uses to manage its information?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Benefacts Project: Discussion (13 Feb 2018)

Alan Kelly: Sorry?

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