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Seanad: Environmental Protection Agency (Emergency Electricity Generation) (Amendment) Bill 2023: Second Stage (9 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: We open our debate with a contribution from the Minister of State at the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications, Deputy Ossian Smyth. The Minister of State has eight minutes.

Seanad: Environmental Protection Agency (Emergency Electricity Generation) (Amendment) Bill 2023: Second Stage (9 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: I thank the Minister of State for his very comprehensive contribution.

Seanad: Environmental Protection Agency (Emergency Electricity Generation) (Amendment) Bill 2023: Second Stage (9 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: The Senator was well briefed in a short space of time.

Seanad: Environmental Protection Agency (Emergency Electricity Generation) (Amendment) Bill 2023: Second Stage (9 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: We are not having statements.

Seanad: Environmental Protection Agency (Emergency Electricity Generation) (Amendment) Bill 2023: Second Stage (9 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: When is it proposed to take Committee Stage?

Seanad: Environmental Protection Agency (Emergency Electricity Generation) (Amendment) Bill 2023: Second Stage (9 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: Is that agreed? Agreed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: I welcome our guests. I have a couple of questions for each group and then a couple of questions that might be common to both groups. I will start with the group from Sheep Milk Ireland. As others have, I welcome the group's initiative. I see great potential in it. A couple of my questions might not sound that way but they are just for information purposes. I am aware that the group has...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: I have a brief question for Sheep Milk Ireland. As a new group, has it been difficult to get access to the Department? I know that it can be difficult for new groups because there are protocols in place. Have our guests had much contact with the Department? How easy or difficult has it been to gain access?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: I was just thinking that the targeted agriculture modernisation scheme, TAMS, would be ideal for someone who was thinking of going down that road, for equipment and so forth.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: I would like clarification on a couple of points. Mr. O'Connor stated that there was a derogation on creosote. The treatment of timber with creosote will have changed a great deal since the derogation's introduction. As youngsters, we were sent out to paint with creosote. When you buy a creosote stake now, it has been pressurised and industrially applied. Would this not have helped to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: What research has been done on them as they relate to the equine industry? I have horses. All a horse wants to do is eat the fence unless it is treated with creosoted. How will that work with these two new products? Has their safety around horses been tested?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: In layman's terms, what would the witnesses request of us that we were in a position to deliver?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: Has Mr. O'Connor been in contact with Dr. Leonard or the Department on this matter?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: And what Mr. O'Connor is saying was confirmed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: It is the kernel of this debate. It is the issue that we need to pursue as a priority. I had wished to ask another question before this matter raised its head, but it is the stumbling block. There is no point in having TAMS if no product has been certified for use.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: It is not something that can be expedited. It depends on laboratory tests.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: Neither did I.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: I believe this ban has been introduced in countries such as Germany and Finland.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Development of Sheep Sector: Discussion (8 Mar 2023)

Paul Daly: It has not been introduced anywhere else yet.

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