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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: The €4 million is in regard to Leinster House.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: No, I am spending a lot of money but I would like to spend more.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: No, that is not part of the Supplementary Estimate.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: We have it available.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: It is for the non-Sunday events.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: Other events took place, for example, the Saturday night in Croke Park and in the streets of Dublin related to the papal visit.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: We were not involved in Croke Park.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: It was on the papal route.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: If it helps, we can write to the Deputy with a full, detailed list in this regard. I do not have the figures he requires from me.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: As the Chair is well aware, there are High Court proceedings in respect of this and papers are pending. It would be wrong for me or anybody to start investigating this matter when legal action is being pursued. It would be unfair for me to make any more statements on this matter until the outcome of those legal proceedings is known. That is only right and fair.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: As I stated previously, this matter is subject to proceedings in the High Court and I will not be saying anything further.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: I am sorry. It can affect the outcome.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: No, I will discuss it with my team. In fairness, the Chair raised this matter with me a year ago. He said at the time that we had done nothing. I made a commitment then to the Chair to meet that person, but on the date I went down to the Chair's neck of the woods, that person was not available.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: Since then, I have asked my officials to go through the documentation. The best legal advice I have, as I have set out, states that there are proceedings in the High Court and I have to adhere to that advice. The Chair can understand where I stand-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: The Chair has referred to a duty to the taxpayer, and I have a duty to the taxpayer.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: I am sorry, but according to the legal advice I am adhering to, I cannot do as the Chair requests due to the pending case in the High Court.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: No.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: On legal advice, I am not saying anything further on this matter. I am sorry.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: I am not in court in respect of the abbey but I am stating the advice I have. As the Chair is going with his advice, I am going with the advice available to me.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Kevin Moran: What previous Ministers have done is nothing to do with me. I am going on the advice available to me. I am sorry.

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