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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I know there was.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I hope Mr. Connaghan is listening to all this. There has to be accountability upwards and downwards.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I would say we will be here until 2.45 p.m.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: No, not without break.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: At 12.15 p.m.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: That was a good answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I have one observation, one comment and a couple of questions. There is much commentary and let us not beat about the bush. People are looking for political accountability and to know if any Ministers were aware of anything. That is blatantly obvious. I would like to move away from that. I address my questions to Dr. Holohan and Mr. Breslin. I ask for clarity which would put this away....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I am sorry?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I want to go back to 2011 because much of the case history goes back through three Ministers for Health. That is my request. The witness does not really get to-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: But-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Basically, we-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is perfect.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is okay. We do not have the ministerial management advisory committee, MinMAC, meetings for the last number of years. CervicalCheck has never been on the agenda of a MinMAC meeting, which is extraordinary. I have made my request. It includes three Ministers and six advisers. That is nine people in total.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: As long as it includes all references to Ministers and advisers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: We have been through other committees and other Departments about private emails and private phones and all of that. I ask Mr. Breslin to make sure it is all covered. The second issue is just an observation. Mr. Breslin has said he was not told about any of these issues until the Vicky Phelan case came light. I accept that. How does he feel that senior management in the HSE - the top...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: They did know it.

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