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Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: Allow the Minister to respond.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: I remind the House and the Minister that we are due to conclude on this at 7 p.m.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: I reminded the Minister that we are up against the clock, but she obviously wants to continue.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: The Senator cannot ask a question of the Leader while the Minister is responding. That is inappropriate.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: Please allow the Minister to speak without interruption.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: With all due respect, that is not a point of order. Let the Minister reply.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: That is not a point of order.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: Please allow the Minister to conclude.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: I have ruled on that point, Senator Byrne. Resume your seat.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: Senator Healy Eames should stick to the point.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: I have ruled on that, Senator. Do not draw it on you again. I have ruled the Senators out of order.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: You are wandering again, Senator.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: It is up to me to act as Cathaoirleach. Senator O'Brien's intervention is also delaying the debate. I ask the Minister to respond so we can move on.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: We are on section 3, Minister.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: I ruled that out of order.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: Keep it relevant, Senator. By not being relevant, the Minister takes latitude and will not respond to you.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: I remind the Senator that we have spent 40 minutes on the first section. There are 18 sections and we are due to finish the debate at 7 p.m.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: The Minister gave a substantive answer. As she explained, it is different for different sections and that is clear.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: Amendment No. 5 in the name of Senators Cullinane, Ó Clochartaigh and Reilly involves a potential charge on the Exchequer and must be ruled out of order. Amendment No. 6 in the name of Senator Cullinane and others is ruled out of order because it is declaratory in nature.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Denis O'Donovan: Amendments Nos. 7 and 8 are ruled out of order as they involve a potential charge on the Exchequer.

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