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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: I have a question for the Department before we wrap up. Yesterday, the Planning and Development, Maritime and Valuation (Amendment) Bill 2022 went through Dáil Éireann. An amendment was proposed to be put in by the Government to allow An Bord Pleanála to change a decision after it was challenged by a judicial review. Is that correct? Was this the intention of the amendment?...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: On the amendment yesterday-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: Would I be right in saying that it would allow An Bord Pleanála to change its decision after it is challenged by a judicial review?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: Was it withdrawn? The Minister withdrew it. Was that on the advice of the officials in the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: Specifically on yesterday, was that on the request-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: Was it on the advice of the officials in the Department that the Minister withdrew it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: We need to have another look, to come back, to review this and to maybe re-frame the legislation. Is that correct? I am not trying to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: In relation to what was mentioned earlier, the phrase "having regard" has taxed us plenty over the years, such as in the case of "having regard" at local authority level. We would hear that a lot.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
An Bord Pleanála - Financial Statements 2020
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is an elastic term to me. That concludes the questions. I want to thank the witnesses for joining us today, and the staff of the board and of the Department - Mr. Doyle and Ms Graham - for preparing for today's meeting. I thank the officials of An Bord Pleanála. I want to thank the Comptroller and Auditor General, Mr. Seamus McCarthy, Ms Henry and their staff for the work that...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: The first item on the agenda today is consideration of minutes of previous meetings. We will consider minutes, accounts, financial statements, correspondence, work programme and any other business. The minutes of the meeting of 7 July have been circulated to members. Do they wish to raise any matters arising from the minutes? If not, are the minutes agreed? Agreed. As usual, the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: That is okay. We can add it on to the list. I thank Deputy Hourigan for that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. McCarthy for that. Could we agree to note the listings of financial statements? Agreed. As usual, the listing of the accounts of the financial statements will be published as part of our minutes. I will move on to correspondence. As previously agreed, items that are not flagged for discussion at this meeting will continue to be dealt with in accordance with the proposed...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: I note that a number of recommendations we have made have been accepted. Clearly, lessons have to be learned from this. We cannot have another open-ended situation like this where the State and the taxpayer are left exposed. We will note and publish that. We move on to item No. 1342 B, which is from Mr. David Gunning, chief executive officer of the National Children's Hospital. It came...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: I want to make sure the Deputy has full information in regard to that record. During the engagement on 16 June, during Deputy Carthy's contribution, the chief officer stated that claims continue to come in during the moratorium. It would appear from the correspondence before us that while the contractor continues to make claims, even though they cannot be progressed through dispute...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: There are two suggestions here. One is that we may need to bring the members of the board in before us in the not too distant future. My opinion is that given the nature of what we have witnessed in the past two years and the responses we are getting from the board, we should certainly keep that proposal under active consideration. We need to include it in the work programme with a...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: We will ask the secretariat to request more specific information from them.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. McCarthy. The next correspondence is 1341B from Mr. Mark Griffin, Secretary General of the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications, dated 4 July 2022, providing information requested by the committee regarding inflation in respect of the national home retrofit scheme. It is proposed to note the correspondence and publish it to the website. Is that agreed?...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: We can get that information from the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage. There are some census figures as well, although that information might not be included in the latest data. Many people with stoves are looking to hold on to them because of the price of electricity and gas. However, I take the Deputy's point and we will seek that information from the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Jul 2022)

Brian Stanley: There is also a question over the number of homes with single-glazed windows.

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