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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I may add that Mr. Breslin sent me a disgraceful response.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I have not got it. I came down here at 9 o'clock this morning and I have not got anything.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: To be honest, what I got was a disgrace. To say that because of the Scally inquiry I could not ask basic parliamentary questions-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Breslin did accept it last Thursday. What was worrying is the fact that he did not see it before it is issued.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: To save time, when it comes to this issue I suggest Mr. Breslin looks at what is coming out of his Department. Otherwise, he could be misled. Second, with regard to that, will Mr. Breslin please inquire who in his Department authorised sending back such a response? I am stuck for time so I have to keep going. Mr. Connaghan-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is fine. Mr. Breslin has done that. Mr. Connaghan, will those two individuals be in front of us tomorrow?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Does Mr. Connaghan think it is good practice and good management that in the middle of a national crisis two of the most senior people, one who is chairman of the serious incident management team, SIMT, which went in to investigate this matter and was appointed by Mr. Connaghan's predecessor, and who are over acute hospitals, are out of the country?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Can Mr. McCallion answer my question, please? Does he believe it is good management practice, in the middle of a national crisis, for these two senior individuals to be out of the country?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: The public are watching this. That is not a good answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Mr. McCallion has plenipotentiary status here. Specifically, when did Mr. Woods and Mr. Lynch become aware of the issues around CervicalCheck?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Who is dealing with it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is good information. I thank Dr. O'Keeffe for that. Some weeks back, Mr. Connaghan's predecessor appointed Mr. Lynch to go in as chair of the SIMT to investigate what had happened here. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: He is aware of all these issues since 4 March 2016.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: On 4 March 2016, he is aware of these issues. For nearly two and a quarter years, he is involved in the cycle of all the issues going on. Why did Mr. Connaghan's predecessor appoint somebody who was actually involved in the issue, was part of the decision making, or non-decision making process, to go in and act as the investigator on this issue when he was part of the process in the first...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Does Mr. Connaghan think it is appropriate for somebody to go in as head investigator in the Health Service Executive, HSE, of the serious incident management team, which is what it says on the tin, when he is privy to this issue and, as we now know, part of the non-disclosure and non-action in this issue? Does he think that is appropriate because I do not?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I do not agree. I believe the idea that he was asked to go in and investigate something he has been party to is ridiculous. Did Dr. O'Keeffe want to continue?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I will come back to that. The reason I am glad Dr. O'Keeffe gave me the earlier date is because I want to know when both of these individuals were aware of this and involved in the process. I want to know the actions they took and when they took them. Dr. O'Keeffe did say that, and she has explained clearly that it would have been in the early days of March 2016, but we all know they were...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: We all know Mr. Lynch would have been part of the conversation after that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Let us find that out. Mr. McCallion is here on Mr. Lynch's behalf.

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