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Seanad: Order of Business. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: I am asking the Leader of the House and all the groups to agree to such a motion.

Seanad: Order of Business. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: As you know, a Chathaoirligh, the Holy Week suspension falls during that period.

Seanad: Motor Vehicle (Duties and Licences) Bill 2003: Second Stage (Resumed). (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: That is not a point of order.

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: I welcome the Minister, Deputy Fahey, and his officials to the House. I have certain concerns about the Bill. I feel we should look at the realities as they pertain to the country now as opposed to what pertained during the campaign for the second Nice treaty referendum leading to the decision by the Irish people on the expansion of Europe.

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: In 2001, some 4,365 work permits issued, many to people in the service and agri-business sectors. In 2001 the highest number of immigrants came from Latvia. In 2001, the number of work permits issued to people from Lithuania was 2,909. Many of these are employed in the hotel and catering industries. There is a relatively small number of people here from Malta and approximately 3,500 from Poland.

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: I am speaking on the use of the words "grant" and "granting" which are important. The former alone is the key to the Bill. The Bill is generally worthy and satisfactory in its restrictions on businesses employing people without permits. However, if amendments are not made on Report Stage to provide for a mechanism to restrict numbers from the 15 applicant countries, boatloads will arrive in...

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: The Senator should concentrate on the amendment.

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: My view is that the Seanad offers Members an opportunity to debate a Bill and amendments. It is not necessary for everybody to sing from the same hymn sheet. I support the Bill. The triple mechanism is there for the Minister. I welcome a debate on this issue because none of us can prophesy what will happen after that point in time.

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: Committee Stage offers an opportunity for everybody to put their view across. At the end of the day we will agree to the Bill. Amendment agreed to. Government amendment No. 3: In page 4, subsection (3)(a), line 11, to delete "to". Amendment agreed to.

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: I disagree with Senator Tuffy's amendment. I am quite surprised that the Labour Party wants this section deleted because I thought it would want the fines to be increased.

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: It is going to be tough, but we have to have controls in this regard. Permits are important and there would be no point in having the system if people were to be employed without proper certification. The Minister is right to have retained that in the Bill.

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: All applicant states may not have completed their agreements with the European Union before the relevant date, so we should stick to the numbers currently on the list without expanding it any further. It would be easy to amend the legislation and it would also present an opportunity to review it.

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: I reiterate that I am very much in favour of having the triple mechanism in place from day one. I hope I am getting this message across, although perhaps I am not.

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: This is an important section. I note Senator Tuffy is saying that there should be no safeguard in place and that the Department and the Minister should have no way of checking the position to ascertain the numbers coming here. From day one there should be a careful assessment of the numbers applying for permits. That is all I am saying. Perhaps I am wrong but time will tell. Nobody can...

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: No, I voted for it.

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: I welcome this amendment, which goes a long way towards satisfying my concerns about the Bill. It is interesting that Germany and Austria, two very strong economies, have concerns that are not shared by any other Members of the Seanad. I may be in good company with Germany and Austria, two excellent countries and great trading partners. They want no freedom of access after enlargement, with...

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Report and Final Stages. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: Do Senators Tuffy and Coghlan want to reward employers? They have made no provision to restrict employers taking on employees without work permits.

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Report and Final Stages. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: The amendment proposes to delete the most important provision in the section which addresses penalties. Does the Senator propose to reward employers who take on employees without a permit?

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Report and Final Stages. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: The proposed lines to be deleted—

Seanad: Employment Permits Bill 2003: Report and Final Stages. (1 Apr 2003)

Terry Leyden: I ask the Senator to clarify the proposal to delete lines 13 to 16 on page 4.

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