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Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: I call on Deputy Naughten. He has approximately 13 minutes remaining.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: It is inappropriate to make that accusation against any Member and I ask the Deputy to reconsider her comment.

Prison Staff. (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: A question please Deputy.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: Before Question Time, we were dealing with the Social Welfare and Pensions (No.2) Bill and the Order for Second Stage. A number of queries were raised and I wish to clarify the position to the House. Further to the points made by Deputy Stagg earlier as regards the need to make an Order for Second Stage on the Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill, the situation is as follows: the Social...

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: We have also checked and the Minister said, "I move that the Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009 be now read a Second Time." That is the correct procedure.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: I advised the House of that but, in reality, the fact we had a guillotine vote on the matter this morning effectively decides it and pre-empts any other consideration. We could waste all evening on this but we have gone to the trouble of checking it. The Deputy's Whip has been advised. We need to proceed with this Bill.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: The blacks are only a draft so-----

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: Apart from that, let us not dwell-----

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: Deputy Shortall, my interest is to ensure cothrom na féinne, fair play, is administered in the House and we will endeavour to do that as far as possible. The fact that we had a guillotine vote on this matter this morning effectively decided the issue so the question of what the Minister actually said is fairly irrelevant.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: The Deputy knows the position.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: That is not correct.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: We went to some trouble on this; during Question Time, we adjourned and were quite prepared to have the matter examined. If the Deputy's point was correct we would have acceded to that point.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: We would have acceded to that point.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: Yes.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: We have had it checked as well.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: Let us not dwell on that.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: Deputy, the critical point about it is this-----

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: The critical point is-----

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: Okay.

Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Dec 2009)

Séamus Kirk: That is not correct. I call Deputy Shortall very briefly.

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