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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: I know that. In that regard, we will be asking local authorities - we are working with them already on this - to identify to us the lands we can activate in the coming months. Some lands have permission; others do not. Permissions may have lapsed. As I stated to the Deputy in the House earlier this week, I will be seeking to bring forward, particularly in social housing, emergency...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: Cork City Council let the genie out of the bottle. I was not going to say it. That site is one I can use as an example. There is €9 million debt on the site that can be activated and we can move on it.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: It might be a different site. There are a couple of sites in Cork. The council identified sites to the committee directly. We are aware of the sites, where they are and what the legacy debt is on them.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: I thank the Deputy for her kind words, her support and the work she does daily. I will first deal with the questions on the resource side. We improved on the social housing staff by 250. That is within all our housing teams across the country. As of the end of September, 180 of those posts were filled. The jobs market is very hot at present, which is a good thing, in that we are nearing...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: I thank Deputy Duffy for his work and for his support. The last figure I saw for timber frame delivery in both public and private was about 48%. However, we are behind that on the social housing side. I have seen it in Limerick. Off-site construction is being used really well by Limerick City and County Council, particularly for infill sites in Moyross, which I have seen. It is also...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: The Deputy raised that and I meant to respond. That is being assessed. As he knows there is a very stringent standard procedure to be followed to get certification for use. In most European countries CLT is being used. We are restricted to a certain height with what we can use. I recently received a presentation on CLT. I have asked my officials to work with the National Standards...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: The Deputy knows this. We are very much focused on this approach as a way of accelerating delivery.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: Yes

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: For the delivery of new social homes this year, we have a target of 9,000 new builds. There is a split between local authority direct builds and AHB delivery. There is a higher AHB delivery of 50% in Cork and Dublin.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: It is split per county. It is detailed-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: The national figure is not quite 50% on each. In Dublin and Cork, it is 50% delivery. The split is about 42% to 44%. What I find-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: I will get the specific number for the Deputy in order that we are not accused of giving incorrect information. The overall target, and this is important, of new builds is 9,000 for this year, and 10,500 overall.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: The distinction that is-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: To conclude on this question, the distinction that continues to be made by some people is between homes built by local authorities and those built by AHBs. From meeting with residents who get new homes, I know they are delighted to have well-built and secure new homes. Much AHB delivery is on local authority land, as the Deputy knows.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: I understand the Deputy's question. To be clear, the targets for local authorities represent one target for delivery of local authority homes. There is one target for new builds. This is what the local authorities are given. If they partner with AHBs, and other Deputies have said that the CAS model of funding works well, then this should be done. We must look at all methods for...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: The Deputy is asking this question in isolation. He is not looking at the increase in funding we are allocating to CAS.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: The Deputy might let me answer this question first. I am not going to speculate as to what the final figure will be in this regard because delivery in quarter 4 will be very strong. I have been clear about this aspect. We are ensuring that any of the moneys not spent on specific housing projects this year will be put towards the activation of housing projects next year. I refer, for...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: Yes, of course. I am just trying to answer-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: I would like to answer the question.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Darragh O'Brien: The Deputy is trying to make a distinction between one type of social home and another.

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