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Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: I thank the Minister for moving this amendment and thank her officials for pointing it out to me before we came into the House so that I do not have to waste energy later. This issue is very important because practitioners must keep up with the many changes in the professions. The Minister's proposal is adequate to cover this problem. Someone who said he or she was an equine specialist in...

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: I agree with the Minister.

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: The Minister has gone a long way to try to deal with this issue which is a bit nebulous. My concern was that if the price of sheep was low, and someone began to do a caesarean section on them if they were having trouble lambing, calling a vet may cost more than the value of the lamb. How often could this happen on one farm before one would take notice of it? The Minister has gone a long way...

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: I support what Senator Scanlon has said and would not like anyone to think I was suggesting this often happened. Unfortunately, it is the notorious cases which are often well-known in an area. This probably does not apply to best practice farmers. Are we sure we can be sufficiently vigilant with regard to these cases? I do not know whether the Minister can do more than rely on those who have...

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: I thank the Minister; the amendment entirely deals with my concern. Students must have some practice and that is why it is important to include that they must practice under supervision.

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: It is important to leave the position as it is. There are dreadful problems with people who claim to have degrees and diplomas they do not possess. Given that this is an international scandal, the public must be protected. It is unfortunate that the most rigorous measures have to be taken to prevent such claims being made. It is shocking to do this to the public and it debases any degrees a...

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: I thank the Minister. I am totally confused after that explanation. Veterinary anaesthetics come under the Medicines Act and can only be given by a veterinary surgeon-practitioner.

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: Will that continue to be the position under the Bill?

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: The anaesthetic can be given only by a veterinary surgeon or veterinary practitioner.

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: If that is the case, does this provision not then conflict with the Medicines Board legislation?

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: Far be it from me to dispute what the Attorney General has said, even though I frequently disagree with his advice. Is there no conflict?

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: Can the anaesthetic still be given by someone other than a vet?

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: That is fine.

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: Suitably qualified and with no false diplomas.

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: Despite this amendment, this section will still not allow for the council's education committee to co-opt specialists. While I am sure the Minister has good reasons for tabling this amendment, this is perhaps a limiting factor, which is a matter of concern to me. The Minister has gone some way in adjusting the size of the committee.

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: I support Senator Quinn. It seems I have not made myself clear in this matter. My argument is not that this person must be a vet. On the contrary, I will be delighted if the Minister chooses a non-veterinary person 999 times out of 1,000. However, it is unfortunate to exclude a candidate simply because he or she is a vet. In reply to Senator Dardis, my point is that section 16(1)(f) imposes...

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: There are certainly some clever dogs around. This provision ties the hands of future Ministers in that the excellent candidate who is involved in running the donkey sanctuary, for example, cannot be appointed to the council if he or she is a vet.

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: That is a terrible thought.

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: I move amendment No. 7: In page 16, lines 1 to 3, to delete paragraph (d). This is an extraordinary amendment for a university Senator to table. Section 16(1)(e) provides for the appointment of two academics to the council. I am concerned that subsection (d) additionally provides for the appointment of a person who must be engaged in the provision of higher education. Veterinary medicine...

Seanad: Veterinary Practice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (22 Mar 2005)

Mary Henry: The person appointed under the provision of subsection (d) could be from Trinity College.

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