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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: I said €119 billion.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is €119 billion: electricity at €36 billion, transport at €42 billion and buildings at €31 billion. Is it agreed that we write back and ask Mr. Griffin if the figure includes everything?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: No, it cannot because there is agriculture as well, but maybe we will ask Mr. Griffin what the full cost is and ask him to break it down by sector but, also, ask him what proportion of that is expected to be funded from public funds for the transition. The next item is No. 1442 B and it is from Eilísh Hardiman, chief executive of Children's Health Ireland, dated 2 September. It provides...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: Deputy Carthy has flagged it as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: What does the Deputy propose?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: We will look for that. Is that agreed? Agreed. This will be an ongoing issue for a considerable period. We will note and publish it and request that further information. The next category is correspondence from and related to private individuals and any other correspondence. The first one is No. 1366 from Deputy Catherine Murphy, dated 19 July, to propose that we request information on...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: That is what she is looking for in No. 1366. Is she happy enough with that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is that agreed? Agreed. The next one is No. 1435, dated 31 August 2022, from an individual. It is further correspondence to the committee with regard to industrial relations matters arising from the individual's employment. We considered related correspondence at our meeting on 14 June. Given the matters raised were subject to ongoing proceedings, it was agreed that we would advise the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: Yes. We are not dealing with it. An adjudication process is going on and we need to be careful of that. We should advise the correspondent that, because there are ongoing proceedings and judgments will be made on this, it would be inappropriate for us to get involved at this stage. Would it be in order for us to ask the body concerned, that is, the other party to this, if it wishes to...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: No. The other party. Would it be in order for us to ask Citizens Information Centres for a response?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: I suggest that we inform the correspondent of No. 1435-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: We agreed we would restate that position when it was concluded.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: However, I propose we add that when the matter is concluded, the committee may be open to re-examining the matter. That is as far as we could go with it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: We will add that we may wish to examine it at the point where those proceedings are concluded. That is as far as we can go on No. 1435. I will now deal with overdue correspondence. It was noted last week the secretariat reviewed the committee's sent correspondence to various bodies over the summer to ensure that all of the committee's requests for information from different bodies that...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: Does the Deputy wish to take anything off the list?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: Unless we have already got the information or the case is no longer relevant. If the Deputy see something that is not relevant, it can be pulled. It saves the secretariat the job of chasing it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: That would be-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: Yes. It relates to CCTV.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: What is the longest period we are looking at for overdue responses? Some correspondence dates from February.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Sep 2022)

Brian Stanley: Any particular body or Department that is audited by the Comptroller and Auditor General is responsible to the Committee of Public Accounts. Such bodies have an obligation to respond to us because the committee has the power to send for papers or, in other words, to request papers and documents. I count it as a breach of the Civil Service code if they do not respond.

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