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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: It is a critical issue.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I assume it would be overly ambitious to suggest that we could deal with that issue before Christmas.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: In respect of the nursing homes and the fair deal scheme, could the Comptroller and Auditor General contextualise that issue within the work and audits he has carried out? I do not want to delay matters but I am trying to get a sense of how we would frame the discussion we need to have on this issue within the HSE audit.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: We referred to a number of people we would like to have before the committee. I accept the Chairman's point that the hearings cannot go on forever. However, for the purposes of thoroughness, what is the position regarding Brown Rudnick and Mr. Tuvi Keinan? Has there been any word from them?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: What about Ronnie Hanna?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Deputy David Cullinane raised the possibility of bringing back the legal advisers to the National Asset Management Agency. That is Mr. Cox.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Many issues arise, for example, in respect of what happened on the famous telephone calls on which we have a direct conflict of evidence.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes, NAMA's head of legal should be here.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 94 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: National Asset Management Agency Sale of Project Eagle (Resumed) (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: On a point of information, perhaps the Deputy might give way in order that I can get clarification from the Comptroller and Attorney General. On advisers, their role and how it changed, Mr. Corrigan seems to have asserted that there was one approach at the time of Project Eagle and that it evolved into something more sophisticated.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 94 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: National Asset Management Agency Sale of Project Eagle (Resumed) (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I want to check if that is factually correct.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 94 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: National Asset Management Agency Sale of Project Eagle (Resumed) (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: It is a point of clarification.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 94 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: National Asset Management Agency Sale of Project Eagle (Resumed) (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Only in Fianna Fáil, though.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 94 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: National Asset Management Agency Sale of Project Eagle (Resumed) (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: In that spirit, let us motor on. I have a series of questions here.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 94 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: National Asset Management Agency Sale of Project Eagle (Resumed) (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: That is at the discretion of the witnesses. I am happy enough.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 94 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: National Asset Management Agency Sale of Project Eagle (Resumed) (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: I welcome our witnesses. I apologise in advance if I splutter as I have a dose of illness. I have a number of questions and I will start with Mr. Mulcahy. His role was head of asset management. Will he explain briefly the relationship he had with NAMA debtors in the carrying out of his function?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 94 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: National Asset Management Agency Sale of Project Eagle (Resumed) (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: What kind of working relationship did Mr. Mulcahy have with Mr. Ronnie Hanna, the head of asset-----

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 94 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: National Asset Management Agency Sale of Project Eagle (Resumed) (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes, sorry.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 94 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: National Asset Management Agency Sale of Project Eagle (Resumed) (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 94 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: National Asset Management Agency Sale of Project Eagle (Resumed) (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: What was Mr. Mulcahy's working relationship with Mr. Ronnie Hanna?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 94 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: National Asset Management Agency Sale of Project Eagle (Resumed) (17 Nov 2016)

Mary Lou McDonald: No, I am not asking the witness how they got on. I am asking what was the dynamic of the relationship. Did they work closely or liase with one another? I know they had different functions.

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