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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: There was no Garda documentation whatsoever.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: With regard to the report Mr. Nugent is doing for the Policing Authority on general email policy, the Policing Authority was very dissatisfied with how far that has gone. Where is it at now?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: Does Mr. Nugent expect it to be discussed at the next Policing Authority meeting?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: I know that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: I have done this previously and I would like to do it again. I would like to ask a double-barrelled, quick-fire question to all the witnesses. We can start at the front. It requires a "Yes" or "No" answer. Did the witnesses in their work for An Garda Síochána ever send or receive any official Garda documentation to or from a Gmail or private email account? Did the witnesses...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: They can explain that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: If they want to-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: They may want to explain an anomaly of some kind. That is fine. It is not to catch anyone out.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: We need to get to the bottom of what has been going on over the past number of years.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: Chairman, how-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: Will the chief superintendent respond to the committee in writing within whatever the Chairman regards as a reasonable timeframe?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: With all due respect and fairness I am entitled to ask the questions. There are ten witnesses here. If that happens that is fine, they should just explain it. I do not want the details, just an explanation of what is going on. I am entitled to ask this question. I have asked it previously at this committee of other people who are not here today and it was answered. All I want is to get...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: I do not mind if the witnesses want to respond as a collective or as individuals. If they want to add information to explain certain circumstances that is fine too. I just want an answer to the specific question: did the witnesses in their work ever have an opportunity or situation where they had to send an email with official Garda documents to any colleague's private email address or did...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: I just want to know if official documentation, from the security and sensitivity points of view, is being transferred in this way. If so how long has it been going on, who has been doing it and why, because the public wants to know? As a public representative I want to know that. There are people here who have had different jobs and have moved on in their careers, congratulations, well...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: I thank Mr. Kidd for that and for hardening the policy. I was an IT manager but that is not relevant to the question I asked. All policies have to be improved. I understand that. I have asked a very specific question and have asked it at this committee before and would like an answer from each witness. I do not mind if it is collective but I want answers in respect of each of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: On the homicide issue, I commend Ms West and Ms Galligan who were here a month or so ago. They were the two best witnesses I have ever seen in my political career. As the most senior person here, does Mr. Nugent believe when he sees their evidence and the way they answered the questions – and I have no doubt he either watched it or read the Official Report – that An Garda...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: What does he believe was done wrong and how should they have been treated better?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: Ms McPartlin is now in charge of the review of homicides. How has the treatment of these two ladies changed in the recent past?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: I am not saying Ms McPartlin was.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: If we were to bring them back in here next week does Ms McPartlin feel that the way they have been treated has improved dramatically?

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