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Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Just to be clear, the Ceann Comhairle ultimately decides.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I presume the reason is that it is not the money of general practitioners to spend. Deputy Ray Butler said a general practitioner might be more inclined to go the distance in helping someone because he or she did not have to worry about the cost, but it is not his or her problem-----

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: They have to do the job and be independent in the way they-----

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I am assuming this is the logic, but it is actually the Ceann Comhairle who ruled on this matter.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: What Deputy Joan Collins could not do is press the amendment.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Yes, it has been ruled out of order. If the Deputy wants to indicate that she wishes to try a different amendment on Report Stage, her doing so will be on the record. The amendments have been out of order. There is nothing further we can do in discussing them further. Since Deputies Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Willie O’Dea and Joan Collins have opposed the section, they may comment on it.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: The contributions are revisiting much of the same territory. Other substantive parts of the Bill need to be considered. I ask members to be brief in their contributions on this section.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I note Deputy Collins wants to speak on this but I want to move on from this.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: We have reached the end of discussing the section. Does anyone wish to say more? No.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Perhaps the Minister of State might clarify the following. Am I correct that this section deals with the jobseeker's allowance and not the jobseeker's transition payment?

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Does that refer to people who have phased out of the age earlier or something like that?

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Is this provision for the jobseeker's transitional arrangement?

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: That is different from what the Deputy said.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: In terms of this section, it is not the jobseeker's transitional but the jobseeker's allowance?

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Who does that relate to? Section 4(b) states, "where the youngest child, referred to in paragraph (a)(ii), has not attained the age of 14 years."

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Is that not the jobseeker's transitional payment?

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Is that what this section is about?

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Is this section about the jobseeker's transitional arrangement?

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I want to know what happens if people who would have been eligible for the jobseeker's transitional payment work part-time. Either they get a bit of the jobseeker's transitional payment following a means test or they would be over the threshold. Do other supports kick in? If someone was a lone parent, the other supports would kick in if they were working part time. Do the supports...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) 2015: Committee Stage (25 Mar 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: It would be for people who would not be eligible for FIS. If somebody was working part time and were not on 19 hours, they are borderline as to whether they qualify for any jobseeker's transitional payment in addition to their wage. It is not just that they get the jobseeker's transitional payment, they also get other supports such as access to education or training. In theory, someone who...

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