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Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: No, I did not.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: It will be in play for five years-----

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: -----and therefore the Senator has time.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: The Senator could have the Cavan model.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: And remember to include the Cavan model of charging.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: I have it in the Bill.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: It states in the Bill that it will not be more than €50.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: Yes, the Senator can oppose it.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: It will get the Senator nowhere.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: I cannot agree to this proposal. A modest fee must be charged in order to cover administration costs and those relating to inspections. I do not want to again impose on the goodwill of those in employment by introducing another general tax, which is what Sinn Féin wants.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: Yes, it is. If we do not charge for these services, then the money will have to come out of the pockets of working people. I do not want to do that and I am imposing an administrative charge on a once-off basis for registration.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: In case Senator Cullinane is worried about what would happen five years afterwards, there will be no re-inspection charge. There will be no €300 annual inspection charge like the one some were going around speaking about when this Bill was first mooted in June. I am sure the misinformation and fear generated about something that was not going to happen is what motivated many to write to...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: On this Bill, what promise did I break?

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: I will do that.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: Some of what I am saying does not suit Senator Ó Domhnaill and I have clarified a great deal, but the Cavan solution that he has put down here as an amendment-----

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: Is it not the truth? Did Senator Ó Domhnaill not put down an amendment to have this legislation implemented on the Cavan model?

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: I read the amendment.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: It is never easy to get money out of Cavan, but €200 every seven years is a bit far.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: In fact, I had to oppose that amendment because it was too onerous on people.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Phil Hogan: I must reiterate these matters because, obviously, they are not sinking in. I oppose the amendment that was put to this House to deal with registration matters on the basis of the Cavan model. The House, unfortunately, when put to the test-----

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