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Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Completion of the Examination of the Report and Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly and Preparation of a Draft Report in accordance with the Terms of Reference of the Joint Committee (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: Ar an gcéad dul síos, ba mhaith liom fíorbhuíochas a ghabháil le Cathaoirleach an choiste as ucht an obair atá déanta aici sa phost sin. I congratulate the Chairman on bringing us to this important day. For those watching at home, this is an example of the Oireachtas doing its work properly. I commend all members of the committee for their diligence. I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Completion of the Examination of the Report and Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly and Preparation of a Draft Report in accordance with the Terms of Reference of the Joint Committee (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: On a point of clarification, the original grouping list we received referred to motions 11 to 17, inclusive. Is the Chair correct in referring now to motions 10 to 17, inclusive?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Completion of the Examination of the Report and Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly and Preparation of a Draft Report in accordance with the Terms of Reference of the Joint Committee (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: All right. Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Completion of the Examination of the Report and Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly and Preparation of a Draft Report in accordance with the Terms of Reference of the Joint Committee (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: That is fine. Go raibh maith agat.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Completion of the Examination of the Report and Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly and Preparation of a Draft Report in accordance with the Terms of Reference of the Joint Committee (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: The Chairman is following a good pattern.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Completion of the Examination of the Report and Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly and Preparation of a Draft Report in accordance with the Terms of Reference of the Joint Committee (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: The settled law of this country has been shown to us on this committee as acting as an impediment to doctors, obstetricians and professionals doing their job. I am happy to support the composite motion as it brings together different strands and, in particular, embraces the evidence that we have heard. I would like Deputy Catherine Murphy's motion on the Nursing and Midwifery Board of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Completion of the Examination of the Report and Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly and Preparation of a Draft Report in accordance with the Terms of Reference of the Joint Committee (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: Is this on the composite motion?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Completion of the Examination of the Report and Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly and Preparation of a Draft Report in accordance with the Terms of Reference of the Joint Committee (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: I second Deputy Kelleher's proposal.

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: The Order of Business is No.1, motion re orders of reference of the Seanad Special Select Committee on the Withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union, to be taken without debate at the conclusion of the Order of Business; No. 2, Social Welfare Bill 2017 - Committee Stage, to be taken at 12.45 p.m. and adjourned not later than 5 p.m., if not previously concluded; No. 53, Private...

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank the 15 Senators who contributed on today's Order of Business. The issue of health was raised by Senators Ardagh, Conway-Walsh and Ó Ríordáin. I will begin by saying that the trolley figures show a decrease of 509 in comparison to this time last year. In November, 1,864 fewer patients were on trolleys and year on year, 2,373 fewer patients were on trolleys....

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: The Senator is great at putting words out there. It would serve her better to acknowledge what the Government is trying to do and to work with us rather than serving up the single transferable speech from west Belfast. Let us have some reality here.

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: I have no difficulty with the Cathaoirleach's comment but the reality must be faced as well. Senator Craughwell, in his contribution, made reference to the fact that we must acknowledge the positive developments that are happening. I said in my response to Senators that nobody should be on a trolley in our hospitals. In that context, Senator Conway-Walsh should not lecture me about the...

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: The figures are decreasing-----

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: -----and the problem for Senator Conway-Walsh and her party is that they are for nothing and against everything. They do not recognise-----

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: She does not recognise, in any shape or form, that there is investment in our health system. She will not acknowledge that recruitment is taking place and that capital investment is happening in hospitals around the country.

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: She does not listen.

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: The Minister for Health and the Government are committed to breaking the cycle of overcrowding and of people having to wait for procedures. That is happening through the renegotiation of the GP contract, investment in primary care, changes in diagnostics and how we do business as well as through an increase in home care packages. That is the reality but I know that Senator Conway-Walsh does...

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: I am very happy to-----

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: I am very happy to have the Minister come to the House again to take part in a debate, as he has done previously. I have no issue with that.

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Dec 2017)

Jerry Buttimer: The reality is that in November 2017 there were 1,800 fewer people on trolleys by comparison to last November. That is a decrease and can be described as a positive trend downwards. There are 405 patients waiting on trolleys in acute hospitals today. While we all accept that there should be nobody on trolleys, there is a reality that must be faced by all sides of this House. The reality...

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