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Criminal Justice (Spent Convictions) Bill 2012 [Seanad]: Second Stage (Resumed) (14 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: I propose to share time with Deputy Tom Hayes. I welcome the Bill, which is timely if not overdue. It shows we are becoming more progressive in our dealings with the criminal justice system. I am the Chairman of the Joint Committee on Justice, Equality and Defence and we have done work on penal reform. We have visited other jurisdictions to see what they are doing. If someone makes a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: I thank our guests for their interesting and valuable contributions on what is a complex matter. The points they raised will be discussed at our next meeting and following our considerations, the joint committee will write to a number of Ministers on the matter.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: That matter will be discussed at our next meeting. The time of our next meeting has yet to be agreed as it depends on the Dáil schedule and other matters.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: We are interested in criminality more than jobs.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: As Deputy Finian McGrath suggested, we-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: That is fine. Members are very busy. There has been cross-House support from all parties and Independent Members on what the witnesses have proposed. That is why we were anxious to invite them in today to hear what they had to say.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: I propose that we will reflect on the issue prior to our next meeting and discuss it then to see what action we might take. Is that agreed? Agreed. I have one or two questions for the witnesses. Point No. 5 in the submission relates to the federation's call for a minimum pricing for alcohol. Could someone expand on the point please because we are interested in the issue from a public...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: The cost is one element. The federation has called for action in that regard. However, we are interested in anti-social behaviour associated with alcohol abuse and misuse. Alcohol is available in every newsagent and garage. One sees cheap alcohol stacked high. Do the witnesses have a view on the issue? It has been proposed, for instance, that alcohol would be served at a separate till...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: Two questions have been asked. The first concerns the number of cigarettes people on holidays can bring in from abroad and the second is on the fall in the United Kingdom figures.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: Which is a grey area?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: We do not wish to identify anyone here at all.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: Sorry, can you tell the joint committee what is the actual legal limit as to the number of cigarettes one can bring in? I think that was the question. Is 200 cigarettes the limit?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: The other question was on the fall recorded in the United Kingdom's statistics.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: For how much are such cigarettes selling?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: Is Mr. Sweeney saying there is a mark-up of €4.30 per packet?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: What is the mark-up for retailers who pay tax?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: I understand the State gets about 76% of the cost. What does that 8% work out to be in monetary terms?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: Consequently, they are making €4.30 in the black market, while the retailers are making one euro in profit per packet.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: The Deputy may ask one final question, as Deputy Finian McGrath has been waiting to contribute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Black Market: Discussion with National Federation of Retail Newsagents (13 Mar 2013)

David Stanton: We are getting away from our brief now. That is a health issue.

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