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Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: It would be interesting to know the situation. Perhaps we could invite that person to appear before us if it is within our remit to ask him or her a few questions. It was negligent of the HSE not to involve or consult that person. Has the HSE sought an audit for the period before 2012 to 2014? Has it sought to investigate and look into the entire period through which money was being...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: I think it is still in the delegates’ own sphere. I respectfully suggest that they ask the internal auditors to go back over the entire period, even though the organisation is said to no longer exist. I very strongly suggest that the delegates consult immediately the current member of staff who spent a period in control of or in a senior position in Console to see what they have to...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: Did the Department inform the National Office for Suicide Prevention?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: To go back the upper tier of the frequent flyer miles for a second, from the recollection of Mr. Raleigh, Mr. O’Brien and Ms O’Connor did anybody contact them saying he or she had concerns?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: Is it acceptable to talk about St. John of God?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: Maybe we will get back to the issue of Console later. Mr. O’Brien said in his opening statement that the HSE funds the community service aspect of the St. John of God. While I know a school would not be under the HSE’s remit, was it aware that St. John of God Community Services was to close its supports for St. Augustine's school, saving around €2 million at the same...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: The reason given was that they were diverting the funds to adult services.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: That followed a meeting with the parents and the now Minister of State, Deputy Finian McGrath.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: It is not going ahead now.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: I thank Ms Queally.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: I will be as brief as I can. Returning to the issue of the HSE employee, I may have got confused with my question.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: I will not be naming the person.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: I will do my best and the Chairman should stop me if he feels I am-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: Mr. O'Brien mentioned earlier that staff were not in post, and I appreciate that. He might elaborate to the extent possible on whether any member of staff of the National Office for Suicide Prevention was ever given any special role to do with liaising with Mr. Kelly or Console.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: Was it ever judged in the HSE that there was any sort of a familiar, or for want of a better expression "unhealthy", relationship between the National Office for Suicide Prevention and Console?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: Was there any reason given to the HSE at the time as to why the organisation that funded the phone line withdrew its funding for it?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: Is it that there was no indication that they had reservations or anything like that, and it was merely that they were not funding it anymore?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: All right, that is fine. Returning to the issue of when officials knew things, does Ms O'Connor recall, as acting director, receiving a call from a former employee here in 2011 advising her of concerns about Console?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: Was anybody or are we aware of any contact that was made?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Marc MacSharry: Is it fair to say there is no record of somebody contacting the HSE?

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