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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Breen said he listened quite carefully to the Taoiseach and what he said about how we should behave in these cases, and that is obviously the appropriate thing to do. At governmental level, there will have to be legislative changes to facilitate the State Claims Agency to do this. What would those changes be?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Obviously, there would have to be changes fairly quickly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Does Mr. Breen accept that the State Claims Agency's hands are tied as the agency is currently constituted and that there would have to be significant changes instantaneously for it not to be party to cases involving the remaining six?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I know that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Within the State Claims Agency's statutory remit and the rules under which it works, it would not be able, through mediation, to settle with these women and sue the laboratories subsequently.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I just wanted to clarify that. I have a few further quick questions. We are all aware of the famous note that was prepared for the Minister, Deputy Harris, from a couple of weeks ago. There has been commentary on this aside from that of the State Claims Agency. Did Mr. Breen feel it necessary to say there were other cases in that note? Would that have been the right thing to do?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Did Mr. Breen not feel, as background information, as an escalation issue, that the fact that there were similarities with other cases meant it would have been appropriate to inform the Department? Did the State Claims Agency do so?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is interesting. I was in committee last week with the Department of Health and I was the person who asked the question that revealed that there were not ten cases. I asked the same question of the HSE and the Department of Health. They had two different answers. It was how they categorised them more than anything else. When did the State Claims Agency inform both of those entities...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Let us presume the following. I met the Department-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: This is a very important point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I met the Department of Health at 3.30 p.m. last Tuesday. The Minister spoke inside-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Yes. That is what I had presumed. We had to ask the Department of Health and the HSE to ask the State Claims Agency how many cases there were. They did not know, or had not asked, which is quite incredible. In fairness, through very good questioning, we have now found out that all the cases involve US-based laboratories. There are two laboratories involved: MedLab Pathology and Quest...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: The very last question, and this is important information which Mr. Breen may supply to the Chairman, is with the breakdown of the laboratories. Will Mr. Breen also supply us with the dates on which he was made aware of the ten cases or the dates on which they were lodged?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: One very small point. How many of the ten cases are taken by the women themselves and how many are, unfortunately, being taken by the families of someone deceased?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Two are taken by families?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: State Claims Agency: Discussion (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Two plus one.

Written Answers — Department of An Taoiseach: Departmental Staff (8 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: 92. To ask the Taoiseach if a civil servant in his Department made contact with members of An Garda Síochána in connection with the events of 23 and 24 June 2017 when a civil servant in his Department was arrested outside Cabra Garda station; and if so, the details of the contact between 23 June 2017 and to date in 2018. [19618/18]

Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: Garda Investigations (3 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: 101. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality the investigations that have been carried out by An Garda Síochána into the operations of Bray Garda station over the past ten years; the findings of these investigations; the consequences of same; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [19331/18]

Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission Investigations (3 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: 102. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality if a civil servant in his Department made contact with a member of An Garda Síochána in connection with the events of 23 and 24 June 2017 when a civil servant in the Department of An Taoiseach was arrested outside Cabra Garda station; and if so, the details of the contact between 23 June 2017 and to date in 2018....

Written Answers — Department of Health: Departmental Meetings (3 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: 141. To ask the Minister for Health the correspondence, discussions or meetings he or his predecessors, Ministerial advisers or departmental officials had with clinical pathology laboratories or their subsidiaries; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [19330/18]