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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Amendments Nos. 13 and 14 are related and may be discussed together. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Are there any questions?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: We must suspend the sitting to allow members to vote in the Dáil.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: We are back in public session and I call Deputy Boyd Barrett.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: The Minister has already responded. Perhaps he wants to add something else.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Is it agreed that the new section be there inserted?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Is the amendment being pressed?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: I ask Deputy McGrath to be brief as everyone has said their piece.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Let me interrupt the Deputy. We had agreed to suspend the sitting at 1 p.m. and it is my intention to have the division before we do so.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: I ask the Deputy to conclude as soon as possible-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: The Deputy was called in line with those who had indicated.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: I think differently and call-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: For the information of the committee, two members abstained in the vote.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: I welcome Minister of State at the Department of Finance, Deputy D'Arcy.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: When he is replying to Deputy Pearse Doherty and Deputy Boyd Barrett, can the Minister of State provide an example of who these funds typically represent and who they are?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: The Minister of State said they came into Ireland in 2013.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Is it possible for the Minister of State to get the detailed information for which members have asked?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Does the Minister of State accept the description of some of the funds as vulture funds?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: I am not forgetting anything. I am not forgetting what they have done to the country and those who live in it.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: If that is what we are talking about, we need to know what we are talking about. If that is what we are voting on, we need to know what we are voting on.