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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: All right.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Okay, and do the officials think the controversy that has unfolded within RTÉ over the last number of months has any impact on commercial activity?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: I ask Mr. Bakhurst to be brief, if he can.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: All right. I return to the €150,000 payment Ryan Tubridy said at this committee he would furnish back. The former chief financial officer, Richard Collins, described it as a potentially fraudulent payment in that invoices were furnished and - we have it in the Grant Thornton report - that the invoices had the description "Consultancy Fees". It is evidenced there that: "'Consultancy...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Okay, so at this stage RTÉ is willing to allow that €150,000 to just sail off into the sunset.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: I will move on in the last few moments I have.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: On the bogus self-employment, RTÉ has put some of the figures pertaining to settlements with the Revenue on public record. I think €1.2 million was stated. How many employees does that relate to?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Mr. Fives does not have that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Can RTÉ provide that to the committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: There is a further scope exercise being carried out by the Department of Social Protection. How many employees, or former employees, does that scope exercise cover?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: It is 695.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Okay, and the €20 million that has been set aside-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: -----or is earmarked is there to potentially cover some of those 600-odd that are-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: That is RTÉ's estimate.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: How much has been set aside?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: I will conclude on this, Chair. We know a number of workers have been given a month to decide on whether they will accept a payment of €2,500 up to €17,500. I think that is about-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Okay, but may I just get a response to that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: No problem, Chair.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: I want to return to that issue of bogus self-employment, going right back to the Eversheds review and the 157 who were deemed to be akin to staff of RTÉ. Some 82 of those 157 were offered contracts with RTÉ, although I think only 79 took that up. It has been reported that an offer has been made and this is outside the €1.2 million settlement with Revenue and the Department...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Sorry, I am conscious of time. Of those 79, I think they were given a month to make a decision as to whether they would accept that payment or not. Is that right?

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