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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: If I understood Ms Power correctly, she referred to providing a package to people who are medically certified as having two years or less to live. I understand what she is saying. There is a human problem, as I try to figure it out in my own mind. This issue comes before us as constituency politicians when a person comes in to query carer's allowance to do with a cancer diagnosis. In most...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I have a supplementary question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The HAOP scheme. It stands for “housing aid for older people”.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Has the Irish Cancer Society a breakdown in respect of terminal cancer? Sometimes, a suite of approaches can be developed to deal with an issue. Do we have any breakdown of the frequency of incidence of terminal cancer in people aged 60 to 70, 70 to 80, nought to ten and ten to 20 in the context of this discussion? As defined by the witnesses, "terminal cancer" means a person has two years...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Could the witnesses-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: If we had that information, it would not be to exclude any group but to include it in a different way. There is a suite of measures for over-70s anyway. They get the electricity allowance and so on. Having that information would be helpful. Over the past week, I have examined the single measures that people can opt for instead of having deep retrofits. They are quite attractive. It...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: May I say just one thing?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: My point concerns universal payments versus so-called targeted payments. Regarding the means test, we have a mixture of both in the system. With a means-tested payment, there are significant administrative costs and significant delays. The other issue is that if someone is well over the limit, there is no bureaucracy involved - he or she just does not apply - but we need to means test...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I will start with the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage. I was fascinated to hear its representatives say there was 20% building inflation. I do not dispute that, but they might tell me how long ago it was that the €8,000 limit – that is certainly the limit in Galway – on the HAOP was set. Is the Department providing a 20% increase in funding for the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Under 70. For people between 66 and 70 years of age, there is no means test.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: There is a means test for the fuel allowance, but not for the household benefits package. Has something been introduced in the past week that we did not hear about?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I am not finished. I will go through them fast but I have many questions. It was mentioned that the gas and electricity element was paid at a rate of €35 per month for 12 months. I wonder about that. When was the €35 per month last changed? The witnesses will probably not be able to give me the figures off the top of their heads – I am sure they will have a good...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I am not talking about adaptation. I am talking about housing aid for older people, which is the reconstruction grant for windows and doors.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: How long was the limit of 8,000 there?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The Department has not been increasing the funding it by 20% per annum.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I mean no disrespect to the assistant secretary. There are so many reviews going on in this State, but somebody said to me years ago-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: -----that it is not reviews we need but it is action. Money has been found for all sorts of things to do with houses such as retrofitting and whatever, but this is really bread and butter stuff.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: No, my second question was about the average cost per unit.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I asked specifically about local authority properties, some of which do not have their own. There are two parts of the question I asked. First, if you have a drive-in and do a retrofit, do they automatically put in an EV charging point? Second, if you do not have a drive-in, will there be communal EV charging points available if the retrofit is carried out?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I was listening to the radio this morning-----

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