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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: We are dealing with amendment No. 60 only.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Amendments Nos. 61 and 63 will be discussed together.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: The Minister of State will have the chance to reply in a minute.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: We agreed earlier that we would break at 5 p.m. I suggest that maybe we go on until 5.15 p.m. and break then until 6.15 p.m. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: If the Minister of State and the Deputy want to have this discussion, they should go to the car park or outside the door. They are not going to have it in here.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: No. Deputies Fitzmaurice and Mattie McGrath had indicated they want to speak. Then we will come back to Deputy Burton.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: I propose to suspend the meeting for an hour.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: I call Deputy Martin Kenny to continue speaking on amendments Nos. 64 to 66, inclusive, and amendment No. 69.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: The Minister of State, Deputy D'Arcy, responded in a general manner to the amendments. The Minister should feel free to comment on any of the specific points raised.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: I advise the Minister that on 5 May we received a list provided by the Department of Finance of the various funds Ministers for Finance had met over time. Obviously, these meetings were part of the business of the country and the Ministers for Finance had to meet them. In the future, when such meetings are being arranged, representatives of the funds, particularly those that are regulated,...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Will Deputy Burton join the meeting some time? The Minister-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: I call Deputy Fitzmaurice or Deputy Mattie McGrath.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: I am in control again.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Are the Deputies pressing or withdrawing the amendment?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: We will have a voice vote.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: How stands the amendment, Deputy?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Amendments Nos. 67 and 76 are related and may be discussed together.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Amendment No. 68 in the name of Deputy Fitzmaurice is out of order.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Amendments Nos. 70 to 75, inclusive, and 84 are related and will be discussed together.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Nov 2017)

John McGuinness: Amendments Nos. 80 and 81 have been ruled out of order.