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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: I take the ten and the 42 together are the 52.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is not exact. They were on contract.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: Does Deputy Connolly want us to get that clarified?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will write back.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: I accept the Deputy's point.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: I do not know. Deputy Connolly has pointed out an obvious issue. We will ask for clarification on that point. If it is as it appears, that is great. If there is a subtle distinction in the letter that the Deputy has spotted, we need to know about it. We will ask for confirmation of that particular point. The next item of correspondence is No. 1754 B from Mr. John McCarthy, Secretary...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: I wish to make a broader point – I will conclude on this – on the concept of having a credit policy drafted by the Department to be implemented by 31 different local authorities, 31 different housing officers and all the staff under them. All those involved have varying levels of training on how to process applications. Some counties have small numbers while others have big...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: What page are you on, Deputy Connolly?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is correspondence number 1754(3).

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will ask for a breakdown of the number of people on housing assistance payment.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: They are listed on page 5 of that document. We will ask for those figures.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: How many on the housing assistance payment are on the transfer list? Some might not be on the list.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: They are all there. We will seek a breakdown of those figures. In effect, they should be added to the figures.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is not current expenditure. I want to clarify this. We will still be talking about capital expenditure. We have not completed capital expenditure.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: Absolutely.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will do that. We will ask the Department. It is the Department's responsibility if we cannot get the 31 chief executives here. It is the conduit to those. We will not accept any answer on that date suggesting it is a matter for the local authority. They are the Department of----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is good.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: They might attend. We need to get the breakdown by local authority. On the credit policy, I am told it is historical. They never published it in the past. The tradition is alive and well. It may be a Victorian rule not to tell the people what is going on; I do not know. Correspondence No. 1755 is from Mr. John McKeon, Secretary General, Department of Employment Affairs and Social...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: I agree with the Deputy that we have no information on how the final sum was agreed. It just refers to the protocol for transfer. We are writing to the Valuation Office. The Valuation Office came into the process because it is a transfer between two State bodies and the Valuation Office acts as an independent arbiter of what is in the overall interests of the taxpayer - not necessarily...

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