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Written Answers — Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fur Farming (2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: The Report and Final stages of the Animal Health and Welfare and Forestry (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2021 is due to be taken in the Dail today Wednesday 2nd Feb 2022.  It must then go through the Seanad.  Once the Bill has passed through the Seanad, the prohibition will be commenced as soon as possible after that.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: What specifically is the Deputy looking at?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Travel and subsistence costs are up from €5.7 million to €8.3 million. The figure for training and development incidental expenses is up from €6.4 million to €9.1 million. That reflects the impact of Covid-19 on activity in 2021 and the expectation that there will be a return to more normal business over the course of this year. Laboratory services-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: For each of the programmes, A, B, C and D, there is a formula used as to how administration expenses are allocated. They are allocated on a percentage basis for each of the programmes. It is therefore not necessarily directly related to the programme; it is a reflection of the overall administration costs. For anyone who wishes to see what exactly is happening in administration and where...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes, it is, but that is a choice farmers made. Obviously-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: I rolled over GLAS, so any farmer coming out of GLAS was able to opt to do an extension year.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes, but there is nothing more we could do to affect that other than to make it as practicable as possible for farmers to continue. We could not do a new scheme for them. It would be much more practical for those who were in GLAS, for example, to continue on GLAS and to continue with the measures they had than it would be to do a new scheme. I do not think doing a new scheme would...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: That is less of a challenge for a one-year scheme than for a five-year scheme. Farmers only had to opt to extend it for one year. The approach taken was to try to maximise the opportunity for as many farmers as possible.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Without a doubt, we did not plant as much forestry last year as we would have liked to have seen. The committee is well aware, because this is something on which it has put a very strong focus, of the challenges we had with licensing and which, over the course of the past year, we have been working our way out of. Thankfully, we are gathering momentum and making a real impact and we will...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: About 550 afforestation licences were granted.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: The actual amount planted was 2,400 ha.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: As for afforestation, every felling licence that is granted comes with a reforestation licence. Where somebody clear-fells a site, the obligation is on him or her to replant that within two years. A new afforestation licence is valid for three years. The licensee has to plant the site within three years. Last year's output of afforestation licences was not as successful as, for example,...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes. It was €25 million initially.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: I have increased it this year. I think it is €19.5 million in 2022-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: No. It is less than what it was projected to be back in 2016 and 2017. What was projected at that stage was potentially up to €25 million. That was then subject to demand, so I think the level of uptake was €16 million or €17 million. As with all the other schemes that are in place and the outgoing CAP, until we have entered the new CAP in 2023, the only option...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: There were 505 afforestation licences-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes, that is what is indicated by what the Deputy has there. I was working from memory of a briefing I had in the last couple of days, which was to the effect that the 550 licences amounted to just over 8,000 ha. That table clearly indicates the figures the Deputy has given.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes. The 8,000 ha is our target. Our plan for 2022 is to double the number of afforestation licences issued. At the start of the year, given our level of ambition, we are profiling the level of funding that would meet that ambition. As the year evolves, we will closely monitor and, depending on the drawdown, adjust it.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food, and the Marine (Revised)
(2 Feb 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Okay. The Deputy is correct on those figures. Do we have an answer as to that €28 million difference in the output targets for 2021 and 2022? We will check that. The 2020 outturn is the same as the 2022 output target. 2021 was the first year of the new seven-year programme; 2022 will be the second year of it. There was an adjustment in the basic payment-----

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