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Public Accounts Committee (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: In light of where we will be in January, we might invite the Dublin Port authority to come in given that-----

Public Accounts Committee (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: So it cannot be invited to come before the committee.

Public Accounts Committee (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: That is grand.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: I welcome everybody and commend Rosslare Europort on its great work in obtaining a new operator for a direct ferry service. It will certainly go a long way towards dealing with the issue of Brexit traffic. I will address this point to Mr. O'Reilly. As the Chair mentioned, four ships arrive at Dublin Port within 45 minutes in the morning. Between 5.30 a.m. and 6.15 a.m., two ships arrive...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Yes. It is the hauliers' representative body.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: That is right. That was in 2018. I reviewed the minutes last night. All of the points Mr. O'Reilly has made in his statement with regard to the shipping companies are points that were raised by the IRHA. Mr. O'Reilly was asked to request that the container terminal operators vary their opening times. He was also asked whether the shipping companies could reorganise their sailings. All...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Did Mr. O'Reilly make a request? I saw his very public spat with Irish Ferries.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: It was with Stena Line. The issue is we have public infrastructure, namely, Dublin Port, that is congested today and that is expected to be chaotic post Brexit. Mr. O'Reilly said in his statement that everything operates the same way as it did when the B&I was there. Is he absolving himself of any responsibility as the chief executive officer, CEO, of Dublin Port in that everything has...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: I just pointed that out.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: I do not have much time. What did Mr. O'Reilly try to change? What did he do? What proactive approach did he take to reorganise those things?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Chairman, may I interrupt Mr. O'Reilly? It is not commercially sensitive. This is publicly owned infrastructure that depends on the economy of Ireland surviving in terms of our having free-flowing traffic for exports and imports. I do not believe it is commercially sensitive. Taking a public service obligation, PSO, to make those schedules work and to change them around is the type of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Every morning.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Sorry, Mr. O'Reilly, I am an operator. I have operated out of three ports represented here today. It is chaotic. Mr. O'Reilly has not engaged with those who are using Dublin Port by his own admission, so how would he know what their opinion is?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Will Mr. O'Reilly explain the chaos? The chaos is trying to get one’s empty container delivered outside the port and trying to get back into the port to get another container on but the container terminal closes and the driver has nowhere to park and there are not toilet facilities. Further chaos is caused by four ferries disembarking at least 1,000 trucks every morning during the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Not always-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: That is not the question. The question is what engagement has Mr. O'Reilly had to vary the sailing times. They do not flow. We accept they will not flow remarkably well post Brexit, post the transition period ending on 1 January next. We know now it is congested. What has happened to change it for 1 January?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Mr. O'Reilly said earlier that his attitude was that Brexit is happening, that it is going ahead. That was the same for the Mr. Grant. In 2018, in the minutes of a meeting held in Dublin Port all these propositions were put to Mr. O'Reilly. From 2018 to 2020, what has happened?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Mr. O'Reilly cannot answer the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: Not at all. Mr. O'Reilly is not. He is the CEO of Dublin Port. He said he is caught between a rock and a hard place, but what did he do with the information? Did he wait to come here today, a month out from the end of the transition period, to tell us that the ferry companies will have to engage with the hauliers whom he does not engage with, to get those timetables shifted? Is that his...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges for Ports arising from Brexit: Discussion (2 Dec 2020)

Verona Murphy: But Mr. O'Reilly yielded nothing.

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