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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: It is here. Will it be removed?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: I do not have a problem but why does it appear in this impact statement?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: In fairness, I would like it to be amended and sent back to us.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: We are supporting the process but we want clarity on what is to be done.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: Of course. I just wanted to clarify the point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: It is a fair question from Deputy Murphy and Senator O'Mahony. The IAA is coming in on 6 December. It is not specifically germane to the purpose of the meeting but that question can be answered then.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: It is an important question. We will specifically ask the IAA to respond to that in the context of the question on the day.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: We cannot talk about the report of the accident until it is published.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: I have one concern. I welcome the work of the IAA. It is hugely important and keeps us all safe and secure. I have one question about due diligence on the charges, notwithstanding the codes and the appropriate reasons for imposing them. In other words, there is no regulation on what the IAA charges, notwithstanding that the underlying reason is right and I fully support what the IAA has...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: I do not doubt that for one moment. My question is that there are 600 regulated entities. If, for example, I am Johnny Murphy and I am a regulated entity how do I make sure that the IAA does not profiteer on the fact that I may have to pay an extra charge? How does the IAA control other costs? How does it make sure that the consumer is not going to be ripped off somewhere along the line?...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: I have no doubt about that at all, but who regulates the IAA?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: The reason I raise the issue is that the regulatory impact statement says that a small number of regulated entities did raise the point about the regulator. While a small number might be only two or three, was it the DAA or who were the people who did that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: I do not doubt that at all. I do not like it saying it is going to charge an extra €1 per head for every passenger going through Dublin Airport.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: I know that is not Mr. Gavin's concern. It is interesting that the DAA would have that point of view.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: Yes, or who does due diligence on that? If a passenger is buying an expensive meal or pint of beer in the airport, has the price gone up because of security? I am talking about the regulation of the airport generally, and I appreciate the witnesses are not from the airport authority.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: That is notwithstanding the fact that the DAA was of the view we as consumers should pay this charge.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: That is the way I looked at it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: The point there is that when the Department did it up to 2013 the expectation was that the budget was adequate. That is what the IAA says in the regulatory impact statement but that did not turn out to be the case, obviously because costs go up. The IAA was saved those few extra shillings it was paying at that time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: Is Mr. Gallagher saying if Dublin Airport as the biggest airport were to introduce a charge specifically on account of this the CAR would regulate it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Irish Aviation Authority (Amendment) Bill 2017: Discussion (22 Nov 2017)

Fergus O'Dowd: At the consultation process some regulated entities expressed the view that they wanted the regulator to have oversight of these charges and that is not recommended by the Department.

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