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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: But-----
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: Basically, we-----
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: That is perfect.
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: That is okay. We do not have the ministerial management advisory committee, MinMAC, meetings for the last number of years. CervicalCheck has never been on the agenda of a MinMAC meeting, which is extraordinary. I have made my request. It includes three Ministers and six advisers. That is nine people in total.
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: That is okay.
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: As long as it includes all references to Ministers and advisers.
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: We have been through other committees and other Departments about private emails and private phones and all of that. I ask Mr. Breslin to make sure it is all covered. The second issue is just an observation. Mr. Breslin has said he was not told about any of these issues until the Vicky Phelan case came light. I accept that. How does he feel that senior management in the HSE - the top...
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: That is okay.
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: They did know it.
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: I did not say anything about non-disclosure. There were issues in the audit process. Dr. O'Keeffe has identified that she had to inform other people at senior management level in the HSE. She told us in evidence earlier that she did so in respect of Mr. Lynch on 3 March.
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: No-----
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: Having knowledge later on, however, when issues started to arise and then still doing nothing is the point I am making. There is a track record here of people who knew about information within the HSE and did not inform the Department of Health. If Mr. Breslin is not concerned about that from March 2016 to when he found out about the Vicky Phelan case, then that is extraordinary.
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: At senior management level.
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: The two gentlemen that we do not know yet-----
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: I agree with Mr. Breslin. Can I ask-----
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: I am going to do what my colleague did and say there were eight or nine minutes there. I will take them-----
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: If the rules-----
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: The Deputy is not chairing.
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: I will take the same time as the previous speaker.
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018): Alan Kelly: Deputy Durkan is not the Ceann Comhairle.

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