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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: I appreciate that. I have two more questions. One is in regard to Toy Show the Musical-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: How long is it gone?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: I will not be long. In regard to Toy Show The Musical, it must have been clear from the outset that this was going to be a flop given the numbers of seats being sold in the Convention Centre, Dublin.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: I was discussing Toy Show The Musical, that production-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: I was discussing Toy Show The Musical.I presume it was clear from the outset, when you were struggling to sell tickets and had empty auditoriums, that the show was not going to be a success. Did anybody think to cry “Stop” and desist with the continuation of the production?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Mr. Coveney mentioned earlier that Mr. Tubridy did not want to get involved in the production creatively or in any way.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Was Mr. Tubridy at any point was asked for a recording to promote the show? Is there any truth in what we heard?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Was he asked directly for a recording to promote Toy Show The Musical and did he refuse?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Was Mr. Coveney disappointed with the lack of promotion in his own shows? Obviously, he had “The Late Late Show” and his own radio show. I am not sure how much promotion he did for the production within his own shows. Did that issue arise?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: My final question is for both the former and current CFOs. There was an article in The Sunday Timesrecently stating that the RTÉ bosses knew of the Ryan Tubridy secret payments in February 2020. At that point, if I am correct, there was an overlap in roles. In other words, there was a comprehensive handing over of roles. What do our witnesses make of that claim inThe Sunday Timesthat...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Yes, €120,000.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: I am asking about any of the undisclosed payments, yes.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: The Sunday Timesis incorrect.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Mr. Collins would have been in his position in RTÉ in February 2020. Again, The Sunday Times claimed that RTÉ bosses would have known of the undisclosed payments. Has he any comment on that?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: The article refers to a €120,000 exit fee, actually.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Did Ms O’Keeffe know that it was not disclosed?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: I ask Mr. Collins the same question.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: I am talking about the exit payment of €120,000 that was undisclosed during that period which The Sunday Times states RTÉ bosses were aware of in February 2020.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: It is the exit fee, I assume.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: I will pick up on it later. I thank the Cathaoirleach.

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