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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Mr. Bakhurst has said that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Okay. If that is the case, that information should be furnished from that Teams meeting. I find it extraordinary that neither the Department nor the Minister have asked for or received that information either.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: This is about governance, however. It is about oversight. It is about restoring trust within RTÉ, showing that lessons have been learned and we have moved on. Without that openness and transparency coming from RTÉ as regards that critical piece of information, I do not think we are anywhere close to starting that process.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: I will move on.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: I am sorry Mr. Bakhurst-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Key information.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: In fairness, that is Mr. Bakhurst's interpretation of it that it is not key. Unfortunately, we do not have the privilege to make that determination because it has been withheld from us. That is the problem.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: I will move on to Richard Collins. I heard what Mr. Bakhurst said earlier about him resigning from the organisation. Was that an amicable separation?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: It was professional. Have legal papers been served on RTÉ by Mr. Collins?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Not yet.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Okay, there was an agreement reached and his legal team were present. We got the most up-to-date figures on TV licence renewals last week. They were down 39%. What is the net loss? What does that equate to?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: It is €21 million, all right. How does the commercial revenue for the year to date compare with last year?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: How much is it down?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: I am sorry, what was that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Is it 9%?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Okay, so it is just below 10%, which is not an insignificant amount. What does that equate to in cash terms?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: All right, but are we talking about €10 million or €20 million? I am not looking for a specific-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Millions.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: Okay. I am conscious of the time, so-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

John Brady: -----does Mr. Mullen envisage that trend continuing for the remainder of the-----

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