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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Staff engagement is an aspect I have some concern about. RTÉ has written to us and said there is a new staff consultative forum. There is a huge amount of outsourcing proposed. There is also quite a lot of decentralisation proposed. It is very difficult to accept there is comprehensive engagement when we are not hearing a serious pushback on that. I am concerned that this engagement...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Yes, or else new jobs have to be created somewhere else and others' jobs are redundant. Some of this does not stand up to that kind of scrutiny. I am quite concerned that engagement is not happening. One of the things we were concerned about at the beginning was that the axe would fall in the wrong place.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: What brought this to our attention was not people at the lower tiers of RTÉ, but people who were highly paid.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: The concern was that they were not going to be the ones who would ultimately pay the price. I am not at all satisfied with that kind of engagement or that we are really hearing what the staff are thinking about that. It is fundamental to how the organisation survives into the future.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Absolutely. The numbers there were the original numbers. Those numbers grew substantially. It certainly was over 500, if I remember rightly.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: We told there were. We were told there were hundreds.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: It certainly has, so maybe we could flesh that out as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Yes, as long as we raise the outsourcing and decentralisation and what happens there.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Agreed. We are going to have that Department in next week anyway.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: No, I am fine. I am going to bring some of the issues up next week when the Department is here.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: We will.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: If one reply is matched against the other, they are polar opposites. That programme certainly did not indicate that was the regime.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: The only equine abattoir in the country is temporarily closed.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: We will be keen to find out what the word "temporarily" means. Animals have been moved from there to another location owned by the same person and there are serious welfare concerns. Understandably, the question has been asked whether the Department is following up and doing welfare checks there.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: That is fine. That is exactly what I am looking for.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: People are entitled to join us.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: We are glad to have good people like Liam Quaide.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Catherine Murphy: To be fair to him, this is an issue he has pursued doggedly.

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