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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: The business before us this afternoon is as follows: minutes, accounts and financial statements, correspondence, work programme and any other business. The first item of business is the minutes of our meeting of 20 October, which has been circulated to members. Do members wish to raise any matters in relation to the minutes? No. Are the minutes agreed? Agreed. As usual, the minutes...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: What exactly is No. 6?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: By the Land Commission?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: That is what I thought.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I call Deputy Carthy.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Department will be coming before the committee in a few weeks' time.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Most of the universities are like that as well, as I recall, regarding liability. Does Mr. McCarthy know what the liability would be?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: That is the accumulated total, that is just there as a liability-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is the listing of the accounts and financial statements agreed? Agreed. As usual, the listing of accounts and financial statements will be published as part of our minutes. The next business is No. 3, correspondence. As previously agreed, items that were not flagged for discussion for this meeting will continue to be dealt with in accordance with the proposed actions that have been...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is okay for you to follow it up separately?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: We will note that. No. R1498B, from Mr. David Moloney, Secretary General, Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, dated 7 October 2022, is the minute of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform in relation to our report on our examination of Vote 29, the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications, programme B, broadcasting, for 2019, and Vote 33, the Department of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I feel the Department is brushing the committee off with that type of response. I am not happy with it. We must set a standard as to what is and is not acceptable. Is that Agreed? Agreed. No. 1513B, from Mr. David Moloney, Secretary General at the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, dated 14 October 2022, provides information requested by the committee regarding the national...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I agree with both Deputies. The issue I am concerned about is that we were told that we are more than 70% of the way through this contract and there is no final price. We do not even have a ballpark figure for the final price. We have made numerous efforts in respect of this matter. It is two years and three months since we started trying to shed some light on it. If a person was three...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I presume it will be HSE capital or capital from the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Some of them may become the subject of court proceedings.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: The far side of the next general election.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: If members agree, we can include that question about the claims. It is a valid question.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: A figure in excess of 4% would have to be carried.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I will include Deputy Colm Burke's points as well in relation to the claims timeline for that and if there are any updated figures on it. We will move on to No. 1526B, which is from Mr. John Callinan, Secretary General of the Department of the Taoiseach. It is dated 19 October 2022 and is providing information requested by the committee regarding the overall cost since 1997 of tribunals...

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