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Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: He is more than welcome to do that but I am on limited time.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I asked about people retiring and then coming back on a consultancy basis. The professor informs me that this is something that happens and I want to know about that within Mr. Field's department.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Who might that be?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: No, I want to know about the position. I am not interested in the name.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: The former financial controller. Would that person have been the financial controller when all of the controversy around person A was in play?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Had that person completed his or her full service at the university?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: How did the person retire? Did he or she get a lump sum payment?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Okay. Did he or she receive a lump sum payment?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Okay, so the person did not get any singular gratuity on exiting. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: All rules were observed and followed when this person exited. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I ask Mr. Field not to talk in riddles. He should bear in mind that we are putting things on the record here. I ask him to just answer my question.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Never mind the report. I ask Mr. Field to tell us now what happened.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Where was it that the university had not complied with good practice?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Which case was that?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Was this individual in receipt of one of those severance packages?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: That would have been a really simple thing to tell me, rather than doing a grand tour like that. This individual left, having almost reached 60 years of age and is now back as a consultant. He or she received a severance package, which was one of two severance packages which were not in compliance with the rules and regulations. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Of course, the university should have done so, should it not?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: No. The rules are the rules; there is no "our view" and "its view". The university should have sought approval for that. Does Mr. Field accept that now?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2014-2015 (30 Mar 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: That point is fairly made. I am simply establishing that the university should have sought that approval. The financial controller - the position we are now discussing - was running things when these controversies arose. He or she exited the employment of UL and received a severance payment. What was the order of that severance payment? Is Mr. Field in a position to tell us that?

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