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Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: We have that one.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I know, and I am genuinely not having a go at Dr. Henry but this had been moved across to the directorate. They were well aware of it. Surely somebody somewhere should have followed up on this.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I know, but when this was put across, and Dr. Henry worked with the director of acute-----

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: -----he was basically working for him.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: As I understand it, nothing happened at acute hospital level for 15 months. Dr. Hickey then elevated it within the hospital. They had not any idea about this because as we now know from Dr. O'Keeffe, they were not copied on the 16 June documentation. To be fair, they did not know about it, which is amazing. The seven group hospital managers in the country were not made aware of it. Does...

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Yes, we have that. It is a famous letter at this stage. I wish Mr. Woods was present because I do not understand why there was no follow-up at the acute level. I am saying that to Mr. Connaghan directly. Sorry - I meant Dr. McKenna.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: This famous September meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: There was an October version of it as well, but it was not minuted. Can someone follow up on that, please? How in the name of God could there have been a meeting that was not minuted? It sounds suspicious to me. I am not getting at Dr. McKenna, but he understood that the programme and the colposcopists were having a meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: As it turned out, the meeting was really to design a brochure,-----

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: -----if one breaks it all down.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Is that not frightening?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: When the programme told Dr. McKenna that there would be a meeting to sort it out, he believed it would be. Since he thought it had been sorted, he did not feel that there was a need to follow it up.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: What date?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I will not stick Dr. McKenna to a date, but how far was it past this meeting?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: The October meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I find it bizarre. The minutes of this meeting are important, yet so many people did not even bother to partake that there were no minutes of the next meeting. The first meeting called was the September meeting. People came together because of this issue - let us call a spade a spade - but there are still no minutes of the follow-up meeting because it is obviously such a damning issue. I...

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Agreed. I second that.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: It is a good suggestion. I could suggest many more people.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I would say that everyone else would be fine with her speaking now.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I hope Mr. Connaghan has taken away a lot more than what he just said. I would be absolutely devastated for the people I represent, for Vicky Phelan and Stephen Teap, if Mr. Connaghan only took away from this meeting what he just said.

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