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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Who decided that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: That also came from Premier Lotteries Ireland as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. On on the saturation advertising, I do not play the game but I see the advertisements over and over again. Is the regulator aware that 40% of the complaints to the Advertising Standards Authority for Ireland this year relate to the national lottery?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Has the Advertising Standards Authority for Ireland been in contact with Ms Boate's office regarding this?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Regarding the term "good causes" being used and 90% of the money going back into the community, I have read the briefing notes and the Comptroller and Auditor General's stuff on this. It is about 28% that actually goes back into community and retailers get between 5% and 6%, according to the briefing notes. Then there are the winnings. That is what it is about. While technically it may be...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I am asking Ms Boate, as the regulator, if she has concerns about the credibility of that claim? It is a direct question.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I would have a different view. I think the vast majority of people, if asked, would have a different view, but I accept Ms Boate's explanation.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I will ask Mr. Nolan what percentage of the company is owned by An Post? What is its share of investment in it?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. Did Deputy Carroll MacNeill have one quick question before we break?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I suggest, if it is possible, that we get that figure before the end of the meeting-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: -----as a communication back to the office or, if not, that it is followed up on.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: We will have a second round after the break. We have to watch it because some Deputies are tied up with other duties but they will appear later That is generally what happens. We will take a short ten-minute break and then resume.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: This was requested by Deputy Carroll MacNeill. I will come in with some questions. On the comparison with other lotteries, I understand the British lottery has a different system for unclaimed prizes. After 180 days, the money is distributed to different organisations and bodies in the community. Was Ms Boate aware of this?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: Would that be a good system to have here? Would it be a good measure to bring in here?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: According to the figures provided by Ms Boate this morning and in the briefing, between 27% and 28.5% of what is given out goes back into the community. That is the figure.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: In the understanding of the public, and in my understanding, it is between 27% and 28.5%. That is the variation in the figures. We will accept that. It is the understanding of committee members as well. We have ascertained from the report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, which we did not know until the report was published, that there was more than €120 million in unclaimed...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: We accept the figures we have been given by Ms Boate. I want to separate two matters. One is that from the operation of the lottery and in terms of what is claimed and everything else, we know that between 27% and 28.5% goes to good causes. We accept that. We will park that for a minute. I am asking a different question about unclaimed prize money. There is more than €20 million...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I have looked at the accounts for two years of Premier Lotteries Ireland. I will come back to that in a minute.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Brian Stanley: I have looked at Premier Lotteries Ireland. I will come back to that. I am sure it has an advertising budget within that without going near the unclaimed prize money.

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