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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: How does that happen? How does someone get a five-year car loan and not get approval for it?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Again, it is an example of oversight, that something like that could happen without approval. Mr. Lynch said he receives a car allowance. Is that a full car allowance?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Is it a full allowance?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Does Mr. Lynch drive to work everyday?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Does Mr. Lynch drive to work most days?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Would he use the car more than he would use public transport to go to work?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Would he not think that would merit maybe not claiming the full car allowance if it is a 50:50 breakdown?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Would Mr. Lynch not think it might be appropriate, because he only uses it for 50% of the time, to hand back the full allowance?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Mr. Lynch still claims the full allowance even though he uses it half the time.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: That is okay. I will move on to Ms Ní Raghallaigh. Will she answer this as honestly as possible? I appreciate the comments she has already made in terms of what she can and cannot say. She said quite clearly she is unhappy with the drip feed of information. She said confidence is eroding in the executive board. Interestingly, she also said that she expects more information to...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: It is probable that there will be more. Is Ms Ní Raghallaigh still not willing to say that she does not have confidence in the executive board at the moment?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Will Ms Ní Raghallaigh elaborate more on it because again that is a very interesting statement that it is probable, because of the trends, that more information will emerge and more revelations will emerge. Can she elaborate on that? Is there something in particular she is expecting to emerge or is this just because of trends? Can she just elaborate on what she means by she "expects more"?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: She expects more. I do as well, by the way. I appreciate that, and also that she is slightly hampered in terms of what she can say. I will move to Ms O'Keeffe. If the former director general, Dee Forbes, was here, one of the questions I would ask her would be whether she feels like she was thrown under a bus. That term has come up quite a lot. Does she feel like she was thrown under a...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Would Ms O'Keeffe say she did not feel that the RTÉ statement from last week represented her part or her role in what has transpired?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Very briefly, does Ms O'Keeffe feel that the former DG was essentially thrown under a bus by that statement?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: I do and I think Ms O'Keeffe has taken that opportunity to clear her name. As I said, the way it was presented, and the way I interpreted it, it was very much laying the blame on the former director general and the former chief financial officer, which is Ms O'Keeffe. I will move on to Ms O'Leary. On accountability, and this is something Deputy Munster tried to get to the bottom of. Ms...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: Therefore, she would have seen the term "consultancy fees".

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: We know consultancy service was written on the invoices according to-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: However, she would have seen-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Christopher O'Sullivan: She raised the invoices, so she would have seen "consultancy fees" but did not liaise with Ms O'Leary. There was no communication. It is very easy to say my "assistant", but surely the ultimate responsibility lies with Ms O'Leary.

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