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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Waterford Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013-2014
(6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: That is a distraction.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Waterford Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013-2014
(6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I do not wish to disturb Professor Donnelly's train of thought but, just so I have this straight, he is telling us now that not alone did he give misinformation to the committee, he also misled the board of governors.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Waterford Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013-2014
(6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: The same incorrect answer.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Waterford Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013-2014
(6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Who was that individual who contacted the chairman?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Waterford Institute of Technology: Financial Statements 2013-2014
(6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: The chairman would know.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I apologise for not being here for the opening statements. I was detained at something else. My question concerns intellectual property and commercialisation. I am not directing my question at Dr. Browne personally but he is an experienced person and I want him to help me understand the sequence of events. In circumstances where an academic like Dr. Browne leads research and arrives at an...

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Dr. Browne needs to talk as though he is talking to a novice because I want this for the purposes of the committee record. Could Dr. Browne walk us through how that happens?

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: For the institution?

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: -----will bring money to the table.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Again, I am not questioning anyone's research expertise. There is no doubt that research leaders bring something specific and special to the table so I am not trying to cast doubt in that regard. That said, research is carried out by teams and it would be very unusual for some Einstein brainiac to hit on something on their own.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am sure it has happened but it is unusual.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: What I am trying to figure out is the methodology or framework relating to an individual who is paid, tenured, financed, supported and facilitated by taxpayers' and public moneys, although not exclusively so.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I understand that. When somebody innovates, there is no issue around a person rightfully staking a claim to what comes from that. I am trying to understand if there is a set formula or protocol. How does one disentangle that and figure out who gets what?

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Forgive me if Dr. Browne referred to this earlier but we heard about a procedure around intellectual property and its commercialisation relating to a different institution. I assume that the National University of Ireland, Galway, NUIG, has written protocols.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: How does NUIG record on a case-by-case basis how those proportions are figured out as regards who gets what and who has what stake? All of that is-----

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: The intellectual property is created, those involved stake their claim and new money is put on the table because investors will become involved so that has an implication for the university's stake and, presumably, for the individuals

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: In circumstances where the spin-off is sold off and disposed of and where cash comes upfront, that is really where who gets what and what stake somebody has really come into focus.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is Dr. Browne satisfied that NUIG has received its fair share?

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Of course, it does.

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